Mattress Forum

It is thinner than the other Natura's that we saw and probably much closer to the Dormier in thickness (my guess would be about 8oz/sq yd). It doesn't seem to change the feel of the mattress one way or another and she says she really likes how it feels on top of the mattress. It is well made (and she looks carefully at stuff like this) and the sides fit easily over the mattress and stay there. There is no "crinkly" feeling from the waterproof/breathable membrane.

The one thing she mentioned is that it had a very strong smell (she is very sensitive to smells) and that she had to air it out for a couple of days before it went away. It is now gone though and she is very happy. She will be sending me pictures of it when she has a chance (top and bottom) and when I get them I will post them here.

All in all a very happy purchase :)

Phoenix

Glad your significant other is happy with the Natura.  Give us a review after you have used it a month.  Pictures would be great too.  I have come to the sad conclusion though no mattress cover will ever work for me. 

I thought I loved the Dormeir until the fifth night, I do love it for back sleeping, but side sleeping caused worse hip pain than before.  Yes I do feel the stitching.  Guess I have more weight in the hips than the skinnier folks here, or they don't side sleep.  My latex is 4" of 24ILD.  So not everyone loves the same thing.  I don't have a mattress cover built in the Dormeir is directly over the latex, maybe that is the difference.  I sink in more.

I am astounded that the Dormeir is affecting you that much - it is so thin I never would have thought it could cause problems for you.  So sorry to hear that because as you know I love, love, love mine.
 

Phoenix

Very high quality product made my surgery project look like a real mattress again!

 Definitely adds some stiffness (compared to only a sheet over the stack), and feels warmer even than sleeping only on a sheet over top layer of 1" 4lb memory foam, if you can imagine that.  As an engineer, having a hard time believing that it can be 'warmer in winter' (yes) and 'cooler in summer' (???????), and may have it long enough to find out.

The first night I woke up with the stabbing pinched shoulder pain... 1st in months, when experimenting with the cotton flannel sheet blanket.

But the curious thing is that after a day or two, I started sleeping OK on it... even "better."

I am suspicious that the improvement was that I adapted to the firmer mattress by sleeping on my back to escape the shoulder crunch... and then the firmer feel was better for my lower back problems.   There is some extra give from the plush top vs. only a sheet... so a layer of 14 ILD may work just right.. or some other combination might be perfect.

Since I have at least 2 half ;pieces of at least 6 different firmnesses and materials, I can now retry them all with the new topper.

From set theory:   6x6x5x4x3x2 possible combinations for 6 inches high, or 4,320 possibilities.... 11.8 years at just once per night.  I'll be back in touch!

Shovel99/ Paul

Also, I assume that in general toppers have more wool in them than pads, so if you want plushness/softness you want a topper, not a pad?

I guess the bad thing about toppers is that they usually don't have straps or any other way to attach to the mattress, so they can slip around?

Steve

Natura topper + Dormeir works well....you can't really machine launder wool toppers anyway.

Actually there are washable wool toppers now, like this one from Natura: http://www.naturaworld.com/topper-washable

It's about 1.25" thick which should help in terms of softness. I was hot on this because I fear that any wool will eventually compress and form body impressions, and I thought that washing would "fix" the body impressions. However, I asked about this on the Natura website and they said that "Washing will not guarantee refluffing." So now I am less interested.

In addition, it doesn't have straps or anything to hold it in place, just sits on top of the bed. And its pretty pricey ($360 for king). So, still looking...

Steve

that washable topper is not nearly as thick as the non-washable ones for the same price.  and out of the 10 or so that we sold, I had one or 2 customers have theirs bunch up on them in the wash.  

A Dormeir and a comfort plus topper could be had for not much more than the price of the washable topper.  and you would be getting 43 oz of wool per yard versus 18.  

1. Yes I noticed that! $360 for the washable, $250 for the classic which is essentially the same size/weight/height.
2. Very useful feedback! So if washing the topper doesn't help refluff it, what's the big advantage to having a washable topper? Just easier to clean if you spill on it or something? (Not a problem for me, my wife is allergic and we have an allergy cover that would keep the wool clean.)
3. Why buy both the Natura and a Dormier? Why not (for example) get the thicker "super" topper they make? Roughly 4x the wool of the classic for less than twice the price? http://www.naturaworld.com/bedding-topper-plus Has anyone tried this? It looks like it would be awesome for a little while, but I'm worried it would be like my old feather bed and need fluffing all the time.

I am so worried about body impressions that I don't think I want more than an inch or 2 of wool. Natura says the classic is 1.25" thick which sounds about perfect to me. I'm just trying to figure out if this would be softer than Dormier?

Steve