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So I've recently made some changes to my sleepez 10000 bed (see below) and developed lower back pain. My back feels very stiff and sore in the morning, and its very hard to stretch forward (ie to touch my toes); stretching backward feels nice. I sleep mostly on my side and back, I would think the pain is from the back sleeping. Is there any way to tell just from the description if the problem is too firm or too soft support? If not, here is more about the changes I made. I was sleeping on a pretty soft bed, waking up generally stiff and sore, but not usually with real "aches" like this. I had something like this (top to bottom);
After extensive work with Phoenix (see this monster thread if interested - http://www.whatsthebest-mattress.com/forum/overstuffing-mattress-case-foam-layers/16508-0-1.html) - we essentially decided that all those toppers were doing more harm than good, and that I needed both a softer top comfort layer and a firmer bottom support layer. So I bought a 3" firm dunlop and a 1" soft talalay from sleepez. I now sleep on:
So, looking at the changes, I would guess either I made the top too soft (unlikely since I used a variety of toppers before) or the bottom "support" too firm. But that seems to contradict the testing I did with Phoenix. I suppose its possible that I am simply sleeping on my back more or something; I do think I sleep on my back more that the bed feels a bit firmer. I would sure appreciate any help... Steve |
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OK, so here are some pics. The first is me on the soft-tal over medium-dunlop over firm-dunlop. This is a firmer comfig than I am used to and feels firm to me. But when I look at the picture, if anything it looks to soft, right? Hips are definitely sinking in, and lower back looks like its a bit too curved. Doesn't look anything like the "just right" picture below. So, should I try even firmer? Even tho this feels borderline too firm to me, and the only time I really seem to get back problems (in the past) was when I slept on mattresses I felt were clearly too firm? Thanks
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There is a bit of a v angle, but not sure if that is enough to cause back pain? Doesn't look that severe to me. Most of the wieght is in the mid section, so I am not sure if you would be able to totally avoid this. It is easier to make it look straight in a diagram. So, this configurations still causes problems? If so, maybe you have to try even firmer. Have you tried with the medium talalay instead of the soft? |
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sandman wrote:
There is a bit of a v angle, but not sure if that is enough to cause back pain? Doesn't look that severe to me. Most of the wieght is in the mid section, so I am not sure if you would be able to totally avoid this. It is easier to make it look straight in a diagram. So, this configurations still causes problems? If so, maybe you have to try even firmer. Have you tried with the medium talalay instead of the soft? Well my back didn't start to hurt until I bought the dunlop firm and added it to my stack in January. Just woke up one morning (maybe 2-3 weeks after changing it) with a terriible backache. It's getting "better" but it's still a long way from good. Did this config cause the problem? Maybe. Would my back get better faster if I tried another config? Maybe. Like I said, I was sleeping on a much softer config (S-Talalay over M-Talalay over M-Dunlop) before I started changing everything again in January, and that never caused low back problems. On the other hand, all the standard advice and picture evidence seems to say that anything softer would be a big mistake. My plan is to try replacing the S-Talalay with Med-Talalay. But I'm sure I couldn't sleep directly on Medium (even Talalay) so my plan would be to try 1-2 inches of soft over that config. Still waiting on the 1" of supersoft from Sleepez before I try that. I'm hoping 1-2" of soft on top will make it comfortable without compromising support too much. Hopefully more like FloBeds or Custom Design configs... This message was modified Feb 11, 2011 by st3v3k4hn
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