Mattress Forum

If not, here is more about the changes I made. I was sleeping on a pretty soft bed, waking up generally stiff and sore, but not usually with real "aches" like this. I had something like this (top to bottom);

• 1 or more thin toppers (wool pad, convoluted foam, memory foam, fiber bed, microfiber allergy cover) - constantly mixing these to try and achieve better results
• 3" soft talalay
• 3" medium talalay
• 3" medium dunlop

After extensive work with Phoenix (see this monster thread if interested - http://www.whatsthebest-mattress.com/forum/overstuffing-mattress-case-foam-layers/16508-0-1.html) - we essentially decided that all those toppers were doing more harm than good, and that I needed both a softer top comfort layer and a firmer bottom support layer. So I bought a 3" firm dunlop and a 1" soft talalay from sleepez. I now sleep on:

• standard poly-filled mattress pad + microfiber allergy cover
• 1" soft talalay
• 3" soft talalay
• 3" medium dunlop
• 3" firm dunlop

So, looking at the changes, I would guess either I made the top too soft (unlikely since I used a variety of toppers before) or the bottom "support" too firm. But that seems to contradict the testing I did with Phoenix. I suppose its possible that I am simply sleeping on my back more or something; I do think I sleep on my back more that the bed feels a bit firmer. I would sure appreciate any help...

Steve