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Soft Bed or Hard Bed for Pain? Study from Webmd.com for discussion- they feel that comfort is subjective to each person even if all have same back pain just like Godilocks - Lynn2006
Apr 10, 2008 8:22 PM
 
Soft Bed or Hard Bed for Back Pain?
Study Gets Mixed Results, but More Find Soft Bed Slightly Better for Back Pain
By Daniel J. DeNoon
WebMD Medical News
Reviewed by Louise Chang, MD

April 3, 2008 -- If Goldilocks had lower back pain, she'd still prefer the bed that was just right.

It's one of the most common questions back pain patients ask. Which is better -- Daddy Bear's hard mattress or Mommy Bear's soft one?

Kim Bergholdt, DC, of Denmark's Funen Back Center, and colleagues tried to find an answer. They randomly assigned 160 patients with lower back pain to sleep in one of three beds for one month.

When the truck pulled up to the patients' houses, it delivered either a hard futon, a water bed...

Re: Help With Finding a Mattress - Lynn2006
Apr 6, 2008 9:05 PM
Mccldwell, Thank you for letting me know about the good pillow article that I read after registering for what looks like a great online Washington Post newspaper.  I copied it below with the link and hope others register to fully utilize the services of this great site. I am glad you let me know about it. I found a few other articles that I found interesting.  I just finished working at 12:45 AM from early this morning and this site ws the perfect relaxation for me to get my mind off of taxes.  I always knew my pillow was important and that is why I used to bring it with me on all my business trips when I used to travel for business. That is why I am always trying to find the perfect pillow height for my side sleeping and petite size ever since my very old latex foam...
Re: My orthotics might be the answer... - Lynn2006
Dec 28, 2007 3:02 PM
BeddyBye, I am so happy for you that since you have been wearing your orthotics, your back pain has lessened significantly. Please keep us updated....
Re: Want to hear from foam experts with bad backs.... - BeddyBye
Jan 30, 2008 8:51 PM
LOL. I always wanted to be Queen of SOMETHING! :-) Lynn is my Co-Queen and what's-his-name (zoned latex expert) is the KING! :)

I'm at the magic number---3 inches of foam. Actually, 2 and 3/4. Two inches of that is latex and then the HR PU foam.

That might have been my trouble with the memory foam. I had it over approximately 2 inches of latex. Some of it medium and some of it soft. The inside of my mattress was firm latex and HR foam. But it was those TOPPERS that were tending to give way to my back. You know, I have to laugh because I had found this quote on a foam website:

"If we were to select what we feel is "the best memory foam mattress topper" we would probably choose the 2 inch 4 lb or the 3 inch 5lb. Either of these would be an excellent...
My orthotics might be the answer... - BeddyBye
Dec 24, 2007 10:18 PM
I've noticed since wearing my prescribed orthotics daily, my right lower back pain is almost non-existant. Or at least not as severe as it had been. Granted, sometimes it still hurts in bed....BUT I love the feel of my topper configuration so much AND any pain or stiffness I have stops almost the minute I get out of bed. It's definitely not the same kind of pain I was having back when my mattress or topper was "sinking" in, hence giving me that nagging lower back pain where it hurts to get out of the "dip". Nothing like that excruciating pain.

So, I'm going to keep wearing my orthotics as much as I can and see if that seems to be the answer. And, more stretching helps, I noticed. I have a feeling it might be some arthritis settling in my joints and back. Need to keep...
Re: A latex mattress co. I'd never heard of... Zero Gravity Bed.... - mccldwll
Mar 4, 2008 3:38 AM
Jim--

The tm is on the name "OrthoTex Latex," which lets them call the PU foam base OrthoTex Latex base foam. Clever. (always watch out when you see "Latex" capitalized.

The interchangeable/modular base support system is what I was proposing a month or so ago so I like the idea. However, that 15" "latex" mattress has only 3.5" of latex. And while they call it 100% organic (which means nothing) the fine print says the process "starts with" 100% natural, which really only promises a blend (not that that's bad, but a bit of snake oil if that's the case). Of greatest concern would be the warranty:

"What is not covered:
Conditions arising from normal wear and tear. (Conditions arising from normal wear and tear include, but are not limited to, mattress cover compression, foam compression or discoloration of components."

In the end, sounds like all they are warranting is that top stitching won't fall...
Re: A latex mattress co. I'd never heard of... Zero Gravity Bed.... - jimsocal
Mar 6, 2008 7:32 PM
mccldwll wrote:
Jim--

The tm is on the name "OrthoTex Latex," which lets them call the PU foam base OrthoTex Latex base foam. Clever. (always watch out when you see "Latex" capitalized.

The interchangeable/modular base support system is what I was proposing a month or so ago so I like the idea. However, that 15" "latex" mattress has only 3.5" of latex. And while they call it 100% organic (which means nothing) the fine print says the process "starts with" 100% natural, which really only promises a blend (not that that's bad, but a bit of snake oil if that's the case). Of greatest concern would be the warranty:

"What is not covered:
Conditions arising from normal wear and tear. (Conditions arising from normal wear and tear include, but are not limited to, mattress cover compression, foam compression or discoloration of components."

In the end, sounds like all they are warranting is that...
A latex mattress co. I'd never heard of... Zero Gravity Bed.... - jimsocal
Mar 2, 2008 5:57 PM
I just found this on the net:  www.zerogravitybed.com/index.php?action=item&id=2284

The only thing I am not sure of is this part:

"Modular Base Support Foam: 6.25" OrthoTex (tm) Latex base foam in a modular design offers superior support and comfort."

What the heck is "OrthoTex Latex" and how can they get a tm on latex?

But the general construction of the mattress looks pretty good, and they say they offer not only a 90 day return policy but also FREE SHIPPING FOR THE RETURN as well as free shipping to you. Hard to believe but if it's true, that's a pretty good deal.

Here's the make up of the bed:

"The Atlantis Mattress:

Made in the USA. Not your ordinary Latex Mattress.

  • Mattress Thickness: 15"
  • Mattress Cover: 2" Natural Organic Quilted Cover.
  • Talalay Latex Layer: 3.5"
  • OrthoTex Layer: 2"
  • Modular Base Support Foam: 6.25" OrthoTex (tm) Latex base...
would anyone mind helping me evaluate the content of this mattress (Sealy Springfree latex) - LPAD
Feb 20, 2008 4:13 PM
here is the list of contents according to one website that carries the mattress.  I'm trying to make sure that the core of this matress is actually all latex, not just some latex.  I realize that there are some layers (comfort layers) that are pu foam, and if I click on it it claims to be high density foam, any comments on that?)

Quilt - Top of Mattress
1 ounce FlameGuard Fiber
Fire-Safety Certified
1 1/4" x 1/2" Convoluted InfiniLux
1" SuperSoft SealyFoam

Padding Layers
3/4" Sealy Latex
Re: a couple more questions- what is a good coil spring mattress, and assurance regarding topper depth - Sabra
Feb 29, 2008 4:21 PM
Do you have an Original Mattress Factory in your city?  www.originalmattress.com They have 3 levels of innerspring mattresses with several levels of padding. The orthopedic firm has the strongest tempered coils (12 3/4 with 6 turns) and all their mattress are double sided. Their midlevel firm has more give in the coils and more to my comfort and liking than the hard orthopedic but both will provide years of service. Stay away from the entry level cheap ones--they are for children and guest rooms.

Since they are flippable mattresses, you will double your wear. They are very reasonably priced as well.

If you don't have these stores, the sealy coils and the strearns and foster are double tempered and therefore stronger; sealy has more per mattress but S & F have thicker gauge wire. If you choose a sealy, stay in the midrange where the queen is 14 gauge and over...