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Re: Pillow review: Simmons Beautyrest firm latex - MequonJim
Sep 13, 2007 12:53 PM
Sep 13, 2007 12:53 PM
I'm glad that worked. Maybe I will try that with my JCPenney zoned latex pillow. Maybe that mixed with my Natura DreamMate pillow, which is already shredded. The Natura DreamMate is too high of an ILD to be used alone. It is so firm, that I would only consider it for side sleeping, but even then I want some cush with all of that support.
Congratulations on your new pillow, & thanks for sharing your success....
Congratulations on your new pillow, & thanks for sharing your success....
Re: Wading through the latex info... (and avoiding a kit) - D3Fi
Sep 13, 2007 1:13 AM
Sep 13, 2007 1:13 AM
Re: Wading through the latex info... (and avoiding a kit) - D3Fi
Sep 10, 2007 11:34 PM
Sep 10, 2007 11:34 PM
1- Personally I don't think Serta/Sealy/Spring Air/S7F/Simmons are even in the same league as the 'green' brands. Anyway, I can't help there as I am biased towards any of the chemical-laden beds. As haysdb said, 'assembling' the bed is really easy and doesn't take long at all. The hardest part honestly is getting the latex out of the bag as they are really stuffed in there. I will say that I have not found natural talalay to be as supportive as I'd like. If you go with that, expect a very soft mattress no matter which firmness you choose.
2- Natural latex does have a very strong odor but it's not what you're thinking. I'm very sensitive to all sorts of chemical odors and this is not one of those smells. It smells like some sort of dessert - seriously. My wife and I love the smell of it and...
2- Natural latex does have a very strong odor but it's not what you're thinking. I'm very sensitive to all sorts of chemical odors and this is not one of those smells. It smells like some sort of dessert - seriously. My wife and I love the smell of it and...
Pillow review: Simmons Beautyrest firm latex - donw
Sep 13, 2007 8:06 AM
Sep 13, 2007 8:06 AM
Okay, I received the pillow from Amazon in 2 days- wow! But... it was still not right - too firm, inspite of the reviews on Amazon saying it was very soft. I'd say it is even more firm than the JCPenney one. Prabably the same ILD, but smaller holes, so my head was held higher, yet. So I spent 3 hours tearing it up. I tried the food processor, but it didn't work - just bounced the pieces around. I used my finger and thumb (of both hands) to pick it apart, making tiny pieces - very tedious. But it was well worth it. I slept on it last night, and my head went to just the right level, with the granules cradling it perfectly. Another upside is that since I have a zippered cover, I can remove latex as needed to adjust the firmness. If you have one of...
Re: pillow report: LI Rejuvenite Newform firm & JCPenney med zoned talalay latex - donw
Sep 12, 2007 8:25 AM
Sep 12, 2007 8:25 AM
Jim, I think it was your comment I saw in a previous post regarding the DreamMate being a bit too firm that kept me from trying that one next instead of the Simmons. If the Simmons is not perfect, I seriously may end up shredding it with my food processor to make my own soft granulated pillow. My only concern would be if there would be enough latex to fill the cover, since the solid pillows have holes, which take up space. According to reviews on Epinions, the Simmons is supposed to be rather soft....
Re: Any info. on Carpe Diem? - donw
Sep 11, 2007 7:50 AM
Sep 11, 2007 7:50 AM
Most of the Simmons issues I've read about could be attributed to tops degrading - not springs. I have seen one or two issues with springs laying over, maybe even punching through the side. But I think that is rare. That being said, I am not a big fan of any of the S-brands.
Your point about the MyComfort warranty is a concern of mine, as well. I think they are covering themselves, like most mattress companies do. I am more concerned about the 1" of PU under the gel. But since it is well protected from body oils and sweat and is supposed to be (alarm going off!) high density, body imprints should be much less likely than with a thick pillow top mattress. They do make a topper that has the gel adhered to 2.8" of latex, but the latex is 19 ILD - very soft! And no, none...
Your point about the MyComfort warranty is a concern of mine, as well. I think they are covering themselves, like most mattress companies do. I am more concerned about the 1" of PU under the gel. But since it is well protected from body oils and sweat and is supposed to be (alarm going off!) high density, body imprints should be much less likely than with a thick pillow top mattress. They do make a topper that has the gel adhered to 2.8" of latex, but the latex is 19 ILD - very soft! And no, none...
Re: Any info. on Carpe Diem? - donw
Sep 10, 2007 7:36 PM
Sep 10, 2007 7:36 PM
Here's an idea. What about a Simmons Beautyrest Classic in firm ($900 for mattress/boxspring). It is a pocket coil bed and should (I believe) have very little PU foam padding. You could then add any topper(s) you want....
Re: Any info. on Carpe Diem? - m61376
Sep 11, 2007 3:03 AM
Thanks for the suggestion, but the coil system on the Beautyrest has been panned for not holding up. I think when they first came out the concept and the bed were winners, but quality control, etc. has rendered it a poor choice.
That gel topper was interesting in concept, but reading the warranty on it did not impress me. They don't guarantee against softening, which they state will happen normally, and for depressions less than 1.5 inches. So, basically it will be expected to get softer and can depress more than half way before there is any warranty; that doesn't portend well for the future, and they are not...
Sep 11, 2007 3:03 AM
Thanks for the suggestion, but the coil system on the Beautyrest has been panned for not holding up. I think when they first came out the concept and the bed were winners, but quality control, etc. has rendered it a poor choice.
That gel topper was interesting in concept, but reading the warranty on it did not impress me. They don't guarantee against softening, which they state will happen normally, and for depressions less than 1.5 inches. So, basically it will be expected to get softer and can depress more than half way before there is any warranty; that doesn't portend well for the future, and they are not...
Stay away from Sleepy's - relaxnow
Sep 11, 2007 3:56 PM
Sep 11, 2007 3:56 PM
There are so many reasons to stay away from Sleepy's.
First they have deceptive practices. For example their Simmons mattresses list lumbar support ratings. I called Simmons and they told me these are the opinions of Sleepy's and not Simmons but when I asked various salespeople at Sleepy's about this, not one person said it was an opinion of Sleepy's. In addition they rate beds from bronze to platinum plus and I had to get it out of the salespeople that
this was the opinion of Sleepy's and not the manufacturer.
Second the salespeople are very high pressure. They make it very hard to leave a store without buying a mattress. In addition if you go in there wanting to buy a less expensive mattress they will always find a way to get you to one that is much more costly. They also
can be quite intimidating in their approach.
Third they have very high prices...
First they have deceptive practices. For example their Simmons mattresses list lumbar support ratings. I called Simmons and they told me these are the opinions of Sleepy's and not Simmons but when I asked various salespeople at Sleepy's about this, not one person said it was an opinion of Sleepy's. In addition they rate beds from bronze to platinum plus and I had to get it out of the salespeople that
this was the opinion of Sleepy's and not the manufacturer.
Second the salespeople are very high pressure. They make it very hard to leave a store without buying a mattress. In addition if you go in there wanting to buy a less expensive mattress they will always find a way to get you to one that is much more costly. They also
can be quite intimidating in their approach.
Third they have very high prices...
Re: Wading through the latex info... (and avoiding a kit) - obxgal
Sep 12, 2007 10:21 PM
Sep 12, 2007 10:21 PM
Many of these brands get their latex from the same place, Latex International. Here's a link to their website that lists the mattress lines and pillows that use it, along with some other information which is really interesting. It does contain natural talalay latex, but not 100%.
http://www.latexfoam.com/consumer/editable_files/consumer_find.htm
We tried some Sealy Spring Free and the pillowtops were comfortable. The best prices I've found on this type of mattress are at Costco.com, the Stearns & Foster Kirkland Series, and Samsclub.com, who has a model by Serta with latex and memory foam called Grand Villa with a cashmere top. We live in a pretty small town, so don't have much to choose from locally and the prices are usually higher.
We're looking for one that has memory foam with a latex core and a natural cover. Not in a kit, preferably a pillowtop. If it should smash down, and there is no saying it will, we'll put something else on...
http://www.latexfoam.com/consumer/editable_files/consumer_find.htm
We tried some Sealy Spring Free and the pillowtops were comfortable. The best prices I've found on this type of mattress are at Costco.com, the Stearns & Foster Kirkland Series, and Samsclub.com, who has a model by Serta with latex and memory foam called Grand Villa with a cashmere top. We live in a pretty small town, so don't have much to choose from locally and the prices are usually higher.
We're looking for one that has memory foam with a latex core and a natural cover. Not in a kit, preferably a pillowtop. If it should smash down, and there is no saying it will, we'll put something else on...