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Husband - late 40's, moderate body frame (he's at an appropriate weight for his height)...he has some minor lower back pain (age-related, not injury-related) Me - mid-40's, need to lose some weight.... I have GERD (acid reflux) and restless legs Our current mattress is OLD.... it's a pillow-top queen and has been a very good mattress. We recently went on a cruise and the mattress on the ship was so comfy. Neither of us was achy in the morning and both of us slept the night through. It's listed as a Sealy Posturepedic Premium Plush Euro-top mattress. The closest I've found is the S&F Clearbrook Plush Euro-top. We were about to buy when my husband sat (then layed) on the iComfort Revolution. I read all the posts on the iComfort, but wanted to see if there were any new reports, likes/dislikes or problems. We can get the iComfort for $2800 (including delivery, set up and haul away) - that's with the adjustable foundation. Sounds like a good deal, but it's still $1000 more than the S&F. We haven't bought a new mattress in about 18 years...so I really appreciate any feedback. Thank you,
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$2800 for an unproven product is a lot of money. What I mean, is that the icomfort is very new to the market. Only time will tell if it's a proven product. Most memory foam mattresses are made to look good and have some great selling story, but don't live up to the hype (Sleeps cool, super long warranty, etc.). If thats your choices (Stearns or icomfort) you may want to stick with the more traditional stearns for $1000 less. I think Tempurpedic has a couple of choices close to that $2800 range with the adjustable base. As far as I'm concerned (yes, I'm biased, it's what I own), the Tempurpedic is the only time proven memory foam out there. I personally know people that have had their Tempurs, for close to 15 years. They are not cheap, but they are a long term investment.
I doubt the icomfort product will be around in 2 years (The original thing). If it is, it will have been re-formulated several times to keep the selling story fresh. Serta does not make their own foam. They buy it from who knows who, and put a fancy cover on it. Good luck. |
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You may have read my posts before about the iComfort Revolution. I know because I had one for over 4 weeks. I was drawn into the Revolution because it is very very plush and I really need to 'easy on joints' feel of memory foam. I knew the Revolution allowed me to sink a lot into it - as I sat on it, siiiiiink, butt sinks in far. Try this, when you lay on it, feel how much the mattress curves down under your hips / rear end. IMO, you don't want to sink in too much. I don't think it should feel too soft. It's inviting, but it can invite problems as well. what happened for me was subtle - after couple nights had to get up, was too hot in bed. I shelved the comforter at that point which I could always use on a traditional innerspring bed. So, I got a thin quilt. It was still a little warm most nights. After a week or so, I started hearing this kinda scraping sound in my neck when turning side to side. In the morning, and all day. My neck is fine. Obviously my spine out of line was adding up to this. After 4 weeks, I had to give up. Before 4 weeks, I was a little pissed to find out the Revolution doesn't have 4.75" memory foam as ad'd, it's actually 5.75" (easy to verify by simply feeling side of mattress and measuring the layers.) Highly unprofessional to not put in the amount of foam as advertised. When buying a Tempurpedic, you get exactly the amount of foam as listed on their website. Shame about the Revolution. Exchanged to it, so no refund opportunity. Pawned it off for $175 on Craigslist, lost over $1300 Tried an all latex, actually just shipped that back for return today. Been on a Tempurpedic Cloud for almost 4 weeks. It's ace. Quite impressive for only 8" of foam. Still a little odor coming off, but we'll see if that goes away in few more weeks. Maybe Revolution will suit you, but you don't want to tweak your spine(s), that's for sure. This message was modified Oct 4, 2011 by slpngoc
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Those aren't our only choices. :) We didn't see any Tempurpedics in that range. Any suggestions on which one to check out? The S&F was just close to what we slept on on the ship....granted it was only 5 nights, but when you're used to cruddy sleep and you sleep all night....well, it's a big deal. |
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gdulaney wrote: Those aren't our only choices. :)
We didn't see any Tempurpedics in that range. Any suggestions on which one to check out? The S&F was just close to what we slept on on the ship....granted it was only 5 nights, but when you're used to cruddy sleep and you sleep all night....well, it's a big deal. Why Cloud? Well, the contour line Tempur foam is slower reacting. It has the traditional Tempurpedic feel of the original mattresses. Many say 'Tempurpedics feel like quick sand'. Well, yeah, maybe if the foam is slow reacting and too soft for them. The ES foam in Cloud line is less dense, but quicker reacting. I can get up off the mattress and it regains shape in a couple seconds. The HD Tempur foam is in a whole different price point (Rhapsody bed). Quite a bit higher, so won't steer you that way. If this Cloud is good for many years, I'd be looking at that next time! Tempurpedics seem 'simple' to me. Put on a thin mattress protector like Protect A Bed. Fitted sheet. Really can feel the mattress, not just a bunch of quilt and batting. I've been on memory foam for almost two months. It works for me. Sleeping hot? Non-issue on Cloud. Several nights went too bed at 80F in room, 70 in morning Little warm of course at 80F, but no probs. When people sleep on a Tempurpedic, maybe with a beefy comforter, then complain of being too hot. That would be silly. Just get a thin quilt instead. Cloud's minimal 8" thickness. Not worried about it. I look forward to the time I can say it's been x years and this thing is still great. What I know is my Tempurpedic Symphony pillow is the same as day I bought it after 3 or 4 years, forget which. The Cloud is plenty soft for me, and support is fine for my 190 lbs. I guess most people who don't have a bad hip or shoulder can be comfortable on a nice innerspring mattress like Stearns and Foster. I tried a new one for 4 weeks in June, but the cheap batting in the quilt and lightweight, ordinary foam in top layers - too uncomfortable for my right shoulder. Memory foam is best I've found so far. btw, shipped my all latex mattress back today. Didn't pan out. This message was modified Oct 4, 2011 by slpngoc
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Great feedback.... we'll look at the cloud model and see how it feels. Do you like having an adjustable base? My biggest concern is the motor going out. Thanks :) |
| i-comfort and the cloud are both memory foam products. The cloud is TempurPedics newest version of memory foam and i-comfort is Serta's version with gel to reduce some of the heat transfer problems associated with memory foam. Durability testing shows that memory foam will soften with use. Even TempurPedic's warranty states this. The softeneing will cause a loss of alignment support and many people have to replace the beds within 8 years. Leggatt and Platt the leading supplier to the mattress industry has tested memory foam and states it will change 17% with use. This is better than other foams like latex (-24%) and regular poly foam (-49%). All of these foams off-gas as they wear which bothers some sleepers especially those with allergies. The best cushioning material tested for durability is intelli-gel which is a space age co-polymer gel that only showed 4.5% change over the life of the mattress and it is totally non-toxic and does not off-gas like the foams. Some mattresses using intelli-gel are warrantied for 30 years and the test results indicate they will last that long. |
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gdulaney wrote: Great feedback.... we'll look at the cloud model and see how it feels.
Do you like having an adjustable base? My biggest concern is the motor going out. Thanks :) About the motor, I actually lean up while the motor is lifting the bed. sounds like less stress on the motor. The motors job is chill when lowering, but they work when lifting. The warranty is only 1 year full part/labor, 2 years parts/no labor, then on your own. Having an adjustable base is certainly better than no adjustable, but not yet sure I will keep it. For me, it is definitely better to adjust the head and foot sections up a little bit while lying on back. However, I really don't sleep on my back. If I feel a little indigestion and am just tired of laying on my side, it's a nice option to adjust it by one click of a preset. I'll be comparing the usefulness vs. upgrading to a Queen size bed. Only way to turn over in a twin is by lifting and turning. About Intellibed - a mere 38 reviews on epinions yet first review was in 2005. Data collected from 9 owners on sleeplikethedead. Buying it would be a leap of faith. Seems to be no Intellibed retailers. There are over 80 Tempurpedic retail stores listed from their site ... in the SF Bay Area alone. This message was modified Oct 7, 2011 by slpngoc
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Good_Sleep wrote: $2800 for an unproven product is a lot of money. She is not paying $2800 for an unproven product. Alot of that budget is for the adjustable base,probably an L&P. Serta IComfort is unproven,that is why it is so much cheaper than a comparable TP. My first generic memory foam mattress lasted 12 years. My next mattress is DIY version of the Grand Bed with Foamex pieces. I have had it for four years and expect it will last at least 12 years total. It has been almost 20 years for memory foam mattresses in the USA. TP was founded in 1992. You can't live on hype alone for that many years. If the beds were horrible they would be almost no market for them instead of a growing market with new players. And I would get the Icomfort over the S&F. They are supposed to be the best innerspring S-brand mattress but I think they are horrible. That is the guest bed I sleep in when I visit my best friend. |
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DeeAgeaux wrote: You can't live on hype alone for that many years. |
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After getting rid of our Sealy Posturpedic plush pillowtop mattress (which was terribly saggy after 7 years), we just saved a lot of money and got a better quality product by buying a medium firm (not plush) mattress set and adding our own toppers instead of a pillowtop. Plush pillowtop mattresses tend to have the shortest lifespan, both because the springs are softer/thinner and because the pillowtop is made of cheap, soft foams that wear out quickly. If you buy your own toppers, you can get higher quality materials (we bought a 2" layer of zoned convoluted memory foam and a 3" layer of soft latex + foam) and just add layers until you get the perfect amount of cushion. Meanwhile, the mattress underneath the toppers will be firm enough that it won't sag or suck you both into a crater in the middle of the bed. If you need an adjustable bed due to your acid reflux, this may not work for you, but I also suffer from it a little, and going to sleep with a pillow under my back and two pillows under my head has worked so far for me. We love the Westin Heavenly Bed (the individually pocketed coils make the bed quiet and I don't feel it when my husband gets into or out of bed), so we looked up the specs and replicated it by starting with the Simmons Beautyrest Classic plush-firm mattress set ($674) and adding our own "pillowtop" with the latex and memory foam toppers. We put the latex topper on top of the memory foam topper, since memory foam is hot next to the skin and latex isn't. Including the toppers, the total cost came to around $1,060 for a bed that feels *incredible* and won't have to be replaced in just a few years. When it starts feeling less comfortable, we can just replace the toppers or the mattress instead of spending $2,000 - $2,500 for a new plush pillowtop mattress set. This message was modified Oct 9, 2011 by Vlaurend
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