Mattress Forum

Under what name?

The problems I had with cloud when I layed on it was that it was little bit low height for me.

And it did not feel it had lot of tempur foam on it, kind of felt firm.  It has only 2.8 inch of tempur foam in it may that is why it did not feel plush.

Also I am thinking sleeping all night on cloud, the 2.8 inch foam, my body will sink through to the base foam. That will make the mattress unbearable.  

Also it is a one time decision for me and I don't want to go back and forth like robert is doing with Costco.

Some people think it is just fine. Like yourself, I can't imagine a skinny little piece of foam doing anything for me, especially when its a $2K piece of 8" foam.

I returned both of the Sleep Innovation beds at Costco today. Got my money back, no questions asked and no hassle whatsoever. Brought home the Sealy Posturpedic Rossville (plush) and we'll hope for the best.

Well, if I remembered that, I would be using it, wouldn't I ? Also changed emails, so I couldn't retrieve the info even if I wanted to.

No need for you to try and take up Slpxxx cause. I'm quite sure he can and hopefully will explain himself.

Me, sell mattresses for a living?  Never.

4 mattresses tried, one kept.  First one cost me nothing.  From a local maker, got full refund.  2nd mattress, the Stearns and Foster cost nothing.  Third one, a mistake in policy ended up costing $1300 ouch.  4th mattress the SleepEZ cost a mere $66 to return.  5th one is a keeper.

Saying 2K for an 8" piece of foam is a rip off is totally arbitrary and counterproductive.  Not all foams are made equally.  How much of the 12" thick mattress you had did you even sink into?  An 8" thick natural rubber foam mattress with expensive wool/cotton covers would probably cost 4~6 times as much in materials costs as most 12" thick memory foam mattresses.  Perhaps Tempur-Pedic has a little bit of a premium because of their high advertising expenses...but the product is also denser.  I have compared the weight of 8" thick Tempur mattresses to 11"~12" thick ones made by Sleep Innovations...they weigh about the same...so the height difference is irrelevant, its roughly the same amount of actual material..and when it comes to polyfoams denser ones tend to perform better and are more costly to manufacture.  

Tempur may not be worth the premium 100% if you compare the materials cost...but if the mattress works really well for someone...then when do you say $2500 is too much for a good nights sleep...I totally agree with slpngoc...its whatever functions best for you.  People blow money on worse investments everyday.  You seem to know a lot about watches...would I be remiss to guess that you probably own a watch thats worth about as much as the Costco memory foam mattress you tried?  

Let me reprase the $2K cost factor...... NO companies piece of foam is worth anywhere near $2K, period. Do you really have any doubt that at the $2K price, ($2500 with box spring/foundatio) that TP mattress is at least 600-800% profit? And that is their lowest priced mattress (King). Do you not think that a $5K price tag on their best model is not the biggest rip off in the bedding industry? Seriously, think about it for a minute.

I understand the advertising costs and the heavier/denser foam costs, but again, it is not $2K worth of material and labor, no matter how you slice it.

I agree that whatever works for a person is just fine. But if TP really wanted to "help" their customer base, they would price their beds realistically and sell a whole lot more to boot.

Do I have watches that cost as much as the Costco mattress? Absolutely. In fact several times more, BUT, I can turn around any day of the week and get what I paid for said watches or even more. A high end watch is not only mechanical art, but an investment too. A mattress (at any price) is just like an every day vehicle. Depreciates the second you sign on the dotted line.

Sorry, I have you confused with another poster as far as the job details go.

As for your returned mattresses, over $1300 in return fees makes your Tempurpedic pretty pricey at well over $3K (for a twin?) That is not chicken scratch in anyone but a very well off persons view. You obviously also live in a large metro area where you have access to very large chain stores who have very liberal return policies. Many people do not. Plus, you live in a state that allows returns. If you did not, how much would that TP have cost by now, about $5K?

It's always fascinating to find somebody who would trade the bewildering array of choices in the marketplace for the certainty of having a government minder decide for them.  Your experience with the government must be entirely theoretical. 

When the state steps in there will be one mattress available in medium firm poly, queen size only because that's what's best for most people. Memory foam kulaks and latex fetishes will be dealt with severely by the Mattress Czar and his bureau of experts.

If you learn nothing else on this forum it should be that one size does not fit all.  The endless variety of products and materials designed for different body types, budgets and preferences can only be provided by a for profit market. 

When the Soviet Union collapsed of its own internal contradictions (from each according to his ability, to each according to their need) I thought this nonsense about greed was finally put to rest, but ignorance and the appeal to envy continues to seduce the ego.