Medium latex layer on top of soft latex layer?
May 26, 2010 9:03 PM
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I switched my layers around this afternoon, because I'm feeling like the soft is too soft for me. But now I'm concerned about this. I mean, I'll sleep on it and try it, but it feels really squishy now that the the middle layer is softer than the top one. How does work, really? Will I get enough support, or is this likely to be worse?
Re: Medium latex layer on top of soft latex layer?
Reply #30 Jun 1, 2010 2:17 PM
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I can't remember what was causing the noise from your frame, but have you tried WD-40 at the various joints and wheel connections?  That has worked for me in the past with a squeaky frame.
Re: Medium latex layer on top of soft latex layer?
Reply #31 Jun 1, 2010 3:00 PM
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I have often used a soft layer under firmer layers. Sometimes it works at least for awhile. IMHO anything is worth a try, then you know. And no one else can tell you what will work for you, so you just have to try it and find out. Never be afraid to think outside the box especially if it's relatively easy and cheap to try.
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Reply #32 Jun 1, 2010 5:44 PM
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OK! I think I have, at least temporarily, solved the worst frame noise problem. Issue 1 is that the frame seems a bit off-kilter and the arms didn't stay locked together. When I first brought it home, there was no extra hardware so I missed the fact that there are little square holes on the arms. The guy had said, "once you put the foundatiojn on it, it's not going anywhere".

I looked around the garage and managed to find some short screws, washers and nuts and was able to cobble together a solution that should work in the short term. I anticipate that the screws will loosen themselves soon, but it will work for now. Issue 2 is there is a rattling noise where the legs/wheels connect to the frame. Not much I can do about that, really, but it's nowhere near as annoying as the other noise was.

The foundation is now back on the frame and I'm going to try another night with medium over firm. Tomoorow will try firm over medium or firm over soft over medium. I think. I just don't know anymore. Last night was pretty good though.

This message was modified Jun 1, 2010 by cynicaljones
Re: Medium latex layer on top of soft latex layer?
Reply #33 Jun 2, 2010 3:59 PM
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The frame I had did have it fitted correctly, but the groove in the hole locked.  But it still made noise, we put clamps on it and that helped.  But it still made noise.  Maybe the wood isn't level (frame) and then when you move during the night it clangs on the metal frame.

You still haven't tried soft, firm, medium (top to bottom) have you?  You just don't like the soft at all?

Re: Medium latex layer on top of soft latex layer?
Reply #34 Jun 2, 2010 4:17 PM
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Leo3 wrote:


You still haven't tried soft, firm, medium (top to bottom) have you?  You just don't like the soft at all?


I may try that tonight. Depends on how much energy I have at the end of the day. I wanted to give the medium over firm some time. So far, that has felt the best to me, except my back hurts when I am on my back for any length of time.

Re: Medium latex layer on top of soft latex layer?
Reply #35 Jun 2, 2010 5:15 PM
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OK, I decided to take a break from work and switched the layers, medium on bottom and firm on top. It's hard to tell without spending several hours on it, but I like the way it feels. I want to try that for a couple nights, then I'll add the soft on top of the firm.

But truly, even though the soft feels good to lay on, I just don't think it's supportive enough for me. I know we've all heard it before, but sometimes, what feels good is not necessarily what's good for us.

Re: Medium latex layer on top of soft latex layer?
Reply #36 Jun 3, 2010 11:41 AM
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Last night, firm over medium felt great! I'll give it a few more nights before I try the soft layer on over all that. I still can't sleep on my back without pain, though. I think my previous sleeping arrangement (old dented couch) made that possible. I'll bet I need an adjustable bed for back sleeping. Oh well.
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Reply #37 Jun 5, 2010 11:20 AM
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firm over medium did not feel as great the following nights. I think it was too hard at hip and shoulder areas.

Next up, soft over firm over medium. But I have a feeling that this will be a little too soft, and I'll end up having to exchange at least one layer.

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Reply #38 Jun 7, 2010 5:32 PM
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Leo, if you're still checking in on this thread. You suggested soft over firm over medium. It feels really luxurious to me, but I am worried it will turn out to be just a bit less supportive than I need.

So, I'll probably want to try a layer exchange soon. Based on what seemed to feel best to me with my previous configurations soft over firm over medium (maybe not quite supportive enough) and medium over firm (a little too firm), I'm thinking maybe an X firm or another firm, and then I can get a 1-2 inch soft topper. Any suggestions, anyone?

Re: Medium latex layer on top of soft latex layer?
Reply #39 Jun 7, 2010 6:23 PM
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cynicaljones wrote:

Leo, if you're still checking in on this thread. You suggested soft over firm over medium. It feels really luxurious to me, but I am worried it will turn out to be just a bit less supportive than I need.

So, I'll probably want to try a layer exchange soon. Based on what seemed to feel best to me with my previous configurations soft over firm over medium (maybe not quite supportive enough) and medium over firm (a little too firm), I'm thinking maybe an X firm or another firm, and then I can get a 1-2 inch soft topper. Any suggestions, anyone?


Hi Cynicaljones, I am here today, I can't seem to find your weight and height again.  I think you are near my height/weight (not heavy but not thin, LOL, somewhat tall).  I don't recall if you had hip pain or back pain before all of this.  But for me IMHO I need soft for my hip.

Your foundation is not the same as mine, and I believe your foundation has no give (just slats) and I am still not happy (full disclosure same as Jim) with my setup for my hips, but my back is very happy.  I have 3 1/2" 24ILD natural talalay over dunlop, over springs.  So if you have hip pain I can't help much, cause I still am having problems.  But for your back unless you have injuries or other ailments I can't say either, only time will tell, try this setup for a while.  You may just need (again IMHO) medium, over medium over firm.  Or a 2" soft (24ILD) topper.  I have not tried 32ILD and that is near what the medium is for Sleepeze, so I can't say.  I need 24ILD for my shoulders and hips, but that is me. I am middle aged, can't remember what you are, I have more aches and pains than most now.

Sorry I wish I had answers, as it is all different for each of us.  You do need, again IMHO, at least 9" of latex to be sure if you try experimenting again with M, over F.  You only had 6" to experiment with so that wasn't a sure test for you.

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