Latex seems to be confusing and tempurpedics seem to soften up?
Oct 24, 2011 4:05 PM
Joined: Oct 19, 2011
Points: 38
After reading more on this forum. I see that latex seems to confusing and tempurpedics are expensive and they soften up.

 Many people here on forum are still "working towards a right latex firmness"

This is very time consuming and and their is no indication that they ever will get a right combination of latex firmness"

Also the latex seems to be "bumping against my body"

Someone please tell me how can I get pressure relief if  latex is pressing against my body? This habit of any latex to bump against you while you lay down on it seems to contradict the claim that latex relieves pressure. In fact opposite seems to be true. That latex creates a new type of pressure on your body.

In regards to Tempurpedics one person said they are sleeping on a cloud. But that cloud only has 2.8 inches of special tempurpedic foam. Rest is polyurethane foam.  The person said they are 6 feet and 2 inches tall and weigh 190 pounds.

Other person recommended that I buy a high density tempurpedic mattress.

But the same person who bought Cloud tempurpedic said all tempurpedic mattresses soften up.

PLEASE SOMEONE TELL ME HOW CAN A TEMPURPEDIC MATTRESS THAT SOFTENS UP WILL SUPPORT YOU?

I mean to say that if  all tempurpedic mattresses soften up they will not be able to support you.

And if they soften up, my body will settle to the bottom of the tempurpoedic mattress and I will be laying on their poly foam.

Please someone tell me how is this any good?

Plus the high density tempurpedic mattress cost a lot more.

 

 

This message was modified Oct 24, 2011 by Joed
Re: Latex seems to be confusing and tempurpedics seem to soften up?
Reply #8 Nov 11, 2011 7:46 PM
Joined: Nov 11, 2011
Points: 4
I sold Tempurpedics for years and yes they do soften up but they don't get too soft. Another words you don't get the body impression and they will still mold and contour to your body BUT there are many other mattresses that are just as good. You need a high density and a good warranty, but you don't have to pay that outrageous price.  I quit selling them because I didn't sell at their markup. But I carry a great alternative that is 1/3 of the price and have 0 complaints. Don't buy the logo

Paula

Re: Latex seems to be confusing and tempurpedics seem to soften up?
Reply #9 Nov 25, 2011 1:42 AM
Joined: Nov 19, 2011
Points: 76
Lots of good info... so here's my additional 2 cents:

  • Foam is all about bubbles (called foam cells) when they are new mattreses, there wil always be a "conditioning" or break-in process... give yourselves anywhere from 3-6 weeks regardless of latex or memory foam.
  • Latex, while still derived from the sap of a rubber tree (unless it is a blend which is chemically the same thing, just manufactured, not natural)
  • When lying on your side, you typically have a hip and shoulder depression that will sink farther than your waist, head and knees
  • If your body "sinks" in all the right places to make your spine rest in a relatively "straight" line (assuming your pillow is the proper pillow for that mattress)
  • I have been teaching people for over 5 years that the spine is about 80% on the bed and about 20% on a pillow.... the right combination is crucial
  • Also, if you are buying because someone "told" you this bed or that bed was good, you are doing yourself a disservice
  • Ultimately if you are buying a reputable brand (do the research on the brand), it feels comfortable when you first get in (Initial Comfort), it feels good after about 12-15 minutes (long enough to let your back muscles recognize support), you have no mental fears or concerns and it is in the price range you are able to work with.... YOU FOUND THE PERFECT BED!
  • If one of those four areas is falling short somehow, see if you can find a bed with similar physical repsonses but at a better price point (for example) then you can still find the right bed for you... price does not determine comfort, but you do get what you pay for (up to  point... after that, you are just payihg for luxury/excess items or features)

Now, the next part is Latex has been used in Europe for over 200 years so it is not "new"  when it comes to beds. What is new is how we Americans like "bigger, softer, better and typically expect higher prices without actually getting a better product.

Latex is derived from the sap of a rubber plant, (but memory foam is derived from petroleum) both need to have their bubbles (foam cells) conditioned in order to feel they way they were designed to feel. If, when you test the bed, it feels too firm... DON'T buy it! If it feels too soft... DON'T buy it! You need to feel comfortable when you test your bed and you need to be comfortable for the entire 12-15 minutes you try it with either your favorite pillow or the one the consultant has helped you find to be the best for your sleep position... if they can't do this... FIND another sleep center.

DO NOT LET SOMEONE TELL YOU WHAT IS COMFORTABLE... let your back (the one who yells at you when you wake up feeling like crap) tell you when it is comfortable.

I hope this has helped and that you Sleep Well "joed"!

Re: Latex seems to be confusing and tempurpedics seem to soften up?
Reply #10 Nov 25, 2011 12:31 PM
Joined: Jun 2, 2011
Points: 481
That is a good post above, but around here in SF Bay Area, latex is sort of a 'no show' in the mattress game.  Go to our biggest retailer, Sleep Train, you see one singular line of 'latex' beds, Serta Vera Wang which are *very* pricey, starting at $1695 twin XL set asking price.  It goes up well over $3k in that line.

Go to the next biggest retailer, Manicini's, they carry Englander latex.  I haven't been impressed or convinced lying on them.

Sears, Penneys and Macys, our major department stores virtually carry no latex models.  Yes, Sears has a Laura Ashley they carry, but it is a convolution of a bit of latex and a bunch of other suspect foams.

btw, the Vera Wangs latex never felt all that good to me in the $1600 price range.  Felt too firm and lot of pushback.

 

So, I bought a Tempurpedic Cloud at $1450 twin XL set.  Am I taking a risk with it being petroleum based and having a slight odor for quite some time?  Yes I am.  But I needed a mattress I can sleep on both sides on including a shoulder that will never be quite the same.  And this Tempurpedic is all around better than 4 other brand new mattress tried in home this year.  I won't be returning it and I see it lasting for quite a few years.  That's my testimony to Tempurpedic.

Re: Latex seems to be confusing and tempurpedics seem to soften up?
Reply #11 Dec 3, 2011 1:13 PM
Joined: Aug 8, 2011
Points: 4
I am unsure what you mean by bump against the body.  Latex offers the ultimate in pressure relief. Ask how much latex is inthe bed. I am a retailer in Canada.  Memory foam is a support foam only it has to be supported by another product.  IE High density poly, Latex coils.  our most luxurious bed is 11' of Tallalay latex. 

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