Gutting a Beautyrest Black mattress - help with latex surgery
Oct 11, 2012 3:24 PM
Joined: Oct 11, 2012
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Hi all,

 

 

 

 

After a short 5 years, our Simmons Beautyrest Black Exquisite mattress has large sag spots where my wife & I sleep.  We've looked at new Latex Bliss mattresses and like them alot, then I came across the posts on Mattress Surgery and became curious.

The bed is basically a 12" mattress with about a 4.5" firm pillow top sewn on.  It's a real problem trying to find deep pocket sheets to fit!  After cutting a couple of inspection holes, it looks like the mattress is (from the bottom up), 7.5" of mattress springs, 2" of foam, 1" of foam, 1/2" of some cloth/mesh material.  The topper is foam with some latex in it.

We really like the feel of the Latex Bliss Entice (3.0 Hybrid) & Beautiful (Natural) mattresses and would be shooting for a similar feel.  So our questions are:

1)  Just keeping the mattress springs, what would be some suggested latex layers & ILDs ?

2)  How do you keep everything in place (zipper enclosure)??

3)  Does anyone make a Topper similar to the Entice's gel cover?

We would like to bring the height of the mattress down, so any kind of latex/foam layers in the 4 - 6" range would be fine.

Thanks for everyone's input!  Once we get everything decided and ordered, I would be happy to post pics of the surgery for others.

This message was modified Oct 12, 2012 by plasma411
Re: Gutting a Beautyrest Black mattress - help with latex surgery
Reply #9 Nov 7, 2012 5:39 PM
Joined: Oct 11, 2012
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Well, I finally had time to take the pillowtop apart.  There was a 1" foam piece, but the surprise was under it.  

A 3" Latex International 40 ILD Talalay topper!   What was more surprising was to see the indentations of our bodies in the Latex.  I was under the impression that Latex rebounded to its original shape.  The Latex is about 5 years old, but that seems rather quick to deteriorate.  I'm revisiting if I want to rebuild the mattress with Latex again.  I may switch to memory foam.  Any thoughts ?

Re: Gutting a Beautyrest Black mattress - help with latex surgery
Reply #10 Nov 7, 2012 8:43 PM
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plasma411 wrote:

Well, I finally had time to take the pillowtop apart.  There was a 1" foam piece, but the surprise was under it.  

A 3" Latex International 40 ILD Talalay topper!   What was more surprising was to see the indentations of our bodies in the Latex.  I was under the impression that Latex rebounded to its original shape.  The Latex is about 5 years old, but that seems rather quick to deteriorate.  I'm revisiting if I want to rebuild the mattress with Latex again.  I may switch to memory foam.  Any thoughts ?

 

Some thoughts:

  • 40 ILD seems firm for a topper application.
  • 40 ILD suggests that it is Blended, not 100% Natural.  Blended LI Talalay has a 20 year warranty.  But 100% Natural has a 10 year warranty.  I understand LI began producing 100% Natural Talalay around 2005... it would be interesting to discover their early 100% Natural product failing after 5 years.
  • I would not expect Talalay to body set after 5 years.

It's a mystery or just some bad Latex.

GK

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