Am I Crazy to Try This?
Jan 14, 2012 12:27 PM
Joined: Jan 14, 2012
Points: 9
I'm thinking about trying a 100% conventional foam mattress using materials from FBM.  

About me:

 - 6'3"

 - 320lbs

 - very muscular; not much "natural padding"

 - wide shoulders compared to waist

 - tend to be warm all the time

 - mostly back sleeper but like to start off on my side for the first 30 minutes to 1 hour

I've been sleeping happily on a Comfortaire (Sleep Number clone) for the past 12 years.  Sadly, my beloved Comfortaire has sprung a leak.  They want $130 for a new air bladder and it isn't even the right height.  Apparently, they stopped making 9" tall mattresses some time ago.  They want me to take a 6" air bladder and a 3" slab of foam as replacement.  Somehow that doesn't seem like the right thing to do so I've been scouring this forum for the past couple of weeks trying to come up with a better option.

My goal is to replicate the feel of my Comfortaire (Sleep Number clone) air bed.  My Confortaire is basically a 9" thick heavy duty air bladder made of rubber with cotton fabric bonded to the outside.  There's a thin quilted pillowtop above the air bladder and that's it.  I have always kept the bed inflated to very close to 100% pressure.  I inflate to 100% and then bleed out just enough air to get full mattress contact along my whole body.

It would be great if I could duplicate the feeling of the Confortaire bed.  I'm open to using foam, latex, or memory foam in any combination.  I don't have a fixed budget but I am very cheap and proud to say it! : )  I would prefer to go with an all-conventional foam mattress (no memory or latex) if I can get away with it.  I expect to sleep on this for only 1-2 years so I don't want to spend more than I need to.  However, I do need to get good rest for the next 1-2 years.

 

 

Here's what I'm thinking (from bottom to top):

6" LUX-HQ (ILD 50) from FBM

2" HD36-HQ (ILD 35) from FBM

1" Super Soft (ILD 12) from FBM

Walmart Cuddle Bed Topper http://www.walmart.com/ip/Cuddle-Bed-400-Thread-Count-Mattress-Topper/15034400

 

Or would this be better?

 

6" LUX-HQ (ILD 50) from FBM

3" HD36-HQ (ILD 35) from FBM

Walmart Cuddle Bed Topper http://www.walmart.com/ip/Cuddle-Bed-400-Thread-Count-Mattress-Topper/15034400

 

So am I crazy to think about trying a bed that's 100% conventional foam with no memory foam or latex?

I would actually be ok ordering one of the 6" thick latex matresses from FBM (one 6" thick slab with uniform ILD) if I knew that was the right thing for me.  I'm just too afraid that I would pick the wrong ILD and flush $400 down the drain.  Maybe FBM's firmest latex (36ILD) isn't even high enough for me at 320lbs.

Also, is conventional foam "hotter" than latex?  I know that memory foam is "hot" and latex is comparitively "cool."  Where does conventioal foam belong in the comparison?

Re: Am I Crazy to Try This?
Reply #9 Jan 15, 2012 1:00 PM
Joined: Dec 22, 2011
Points: 15
bigdaddyk wrote:

 

 


Thanks for the validation!   It's good to hear that I'm not completely off my rocker!  : )

I wonder if I might be misunderstanding you on this...  Are you saying that you've slept on a solid 5" thick slab of 50 ILD LUX-R?   If so, I am very intrigued!   So much so that I might consider ordering my slab of LUX first, all by itself, so that I can give it a try.  I figure that it's best to start off hard.  I can always add softer layers as needed.


Well did not realize the LUX would be so firm.  I bought it along with a 3'" talalay topper.  Since I have 2 bedrooms in my house I've been able to to do a lotta swapping and experimenting.  I have ended up using the LUX slab as a base on one of the platform beds (I ditched all the crappy foundations of the serta and spring air mattresses I still have), then laying the Serta (a very decent mattress) on top, then the talalay.  Its working great so far.

Experiment!  You may find the right layering right off, or it may take some work.

Re: Am I Crazy to Try This?
Reply #10 Jan 15, 2012 1:33 PM
Joined: Aug 1, 2009
Points: 175
bigdaddyk wrote:

I'm also looking into a bed from http://originalmattressfactory.com.  User TC2334 posted a recommendation for their Orthopedic Extra Firm. TC2334 has a 400lb friend who is happy with the bed.  There are a number of posts here stating that Original Mattress Factory builds quality beds the old fashioned way.  I might end up visiting the showroom to try this mattress.  I could by a lot of foam and topper for same price though...

If there's an OMF showroom near you, then you might as well go try out their mattresses. You might find one you like, or your visit might confirm your initial decision to go with a 50-ILD foam base. Either way, it's good.


 

Re: Am I Crazy to Try This?
Reply #11 Jan 21, 2012 2:22 PM
Joined: Jan 14, 2012
Points: 9
I've abandoned the idea of doing an all poly foam mattress. After I looked at the cost of the HQ poly foams it was clear that there isn't that much of price difference over bargain latex.
 
I also realized that I can buy the latex for the larger bed that I want but don't have room for and cut it down to Twin XL.   Later, when I have the room I can reassemble Twin XL sized foam and the other parts into a larger cover.  Very cool!
 
I found cheap latex toppers at Walmart.  With Walmart's no hassle 30 day return policy I couldn't resist ordering a couple to try out.  The all poly bed was going to be risk.  I had no way to try poly without ordering a big chunk from FBM.  Returning to FBM is barely worth it after shipping costs are deducted.   With the latex toppers I could try risk free.
 
After having the Walmart latex toppers for a few days, I'm a latex convert.  They're horrible toppers but I can see the potential for greatness in a properly designed latex stack.

My experience with the Walmart latex toppers is in this new thread: http://www.whatsthebest-mattress.com/forum/classic-brands-dormia-latex-topper-walmart/27568-0-1.html

This message was modified Jan 21, 2012 by bigdaddyk

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