Desperate for a good night's sleep. Looking at toppers.
Sep 25, 2011 5:25 PM
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I have not had a good night's sleep for over four years due to hip pain...both sides.  I am only a side sleeper so have to be on one hip or the other.

Bought a new Simmons Beauty Rest for $2,000 two years ago but it was too soft and caused low back pain as bad as the hip pain.  Traded for the same mattress but in a firm.  Got a Costco topper and thought I would be all set.  Not. 

Then my husband got cancer and I was sleeping in a lot of cots and chairs in hospitals which didn't help, but still had the same issues when sleeping in my own bed but too worn out as caregiver to do anything about it.

My husband died last October and I'm just now beginning to function well enough to figure out that I have GOT to find a solution so I can get some sleep.  I was waking about every hour and a half to two hours and taking extra strength Tylenol, and putting on analgesic cream to be able to go back to sleep.  This would be sometimes as often as 5 or 6 times a night.

I found a new chiropractor who has helped some, but I still have to slather myself with analgesic and take Tylenol to go to sleep, and still wake up at least 2 or 3 times a night from the hip pain. (sometimes shoulder pain too, but it's nothing like the hip pain which is very deep pain)

I can see my Costco topper is beginning to sag, but it never really did give me relief from the hip pain.....please suggestions.  I don't know were to start.  I am 68 and am 5'3" and 155 pounds.

Thank you for pointing me in some direction to find relief.

Ginger

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Reply #1 Sep 25, 2011 6:00 PM
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Ginger,

 

the softest (while being supportive) bed I have found to date is a Tempurpedic brand.  It is a regular Cloud.  I've only had it two weeks, but I suspect it is fully broken in.  I have an old right shoulder injury, yet I rely on turning on my right side sometimes to sleep, so it's tough.

The Cloud Supreme would have been softer, but I'm not sure it would have provided enough support as 4" of memory foam maybe makes me sink in the mattress too much.

I'm not an expert on toppers, but I've tried a couple.  I bought a 2.5" gel memory foam sleep innovations topper from Costco.  I tried it on top of my latex mattress at the time.  Well, it slept pretty hot and I sunk in quite a bit.  Mattress became too soft.  Pressure relief wasn't great.

I also have an all latex bed, the kind that come in 3 layers and you zip the cover closed.  It is supportive and pretty soft, but I have to give the prize to the Tempurpedic for the best in pressure relief.   Again, only had Tempurpedic for 2 weeks and it's possible things could change, but that's it for now.

A number of salespeople recommend Tempurpedic or good memory foam mattresses for the max in pressure relief for joint pain. 

A lot of mattresses feel good when you first lay on them, or for the first 20 minutes or even couple hours, but the real test is how well does the mattress feel to you after laying 5, 6 or more hours on it.  Like said, when morning comes around, the best I've experirenced in pressure relief is good memory foam (Tempurpedic).  The downside, many models are pricey and they do give off a slight odor you'll notice when entering closed room.  I have a 3 year old Tempurpedic pillow that doesn't smell at all, but I don't recall how long it took for the slight odor to go away. My Cloud mattress does not sleep hot either.  No issue there.

This message was modified Sep 25, 2011 by slpngoc
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Reply #2 Sep 25, 2011 6:06 PM
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Please accept my condolences on the loss of your husband.  I don't have very constructive feedback, but I'll give it a shot anyway.  The only way I could sleep when I broke my shoulder was vicodin.  I hate meds, but finally the lack of sleep drove me to accept that drugs were the answer.  One vicodin per day was not addictive.  Perhaps if you have medical condition you can get a prescription for vicodin.
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Reply #3 Sep 25, 2011 7:09 PM
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Thank you for the replies.

I really can't afford another mattress after paying $2,000 for the one I have that is quite new as mattresses go.  I hope to find a topper that will help.  My topper is Costco and it never relieved the pressure points.

I spent about 2 hours at the mattress store the other day (Sleep Experts) and laid on some tempurpedics.  They felt great but within 20 minutes or so my hip would start to hurt.  It is such a deep ache that you can't ignore it.

To the person with the second reply....thank you for your suggestion too re Vicodin, but if at all possible I hope to cushion the pressure points.  I'm hoping I just haven't found the right topper yet. :)

Thank you for your condolences.  It has been a tough couple of years.

Ginger

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Reply #4 Sep 25, 2011 11:28 PM
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Ginger,

Just some food for thought for next time around -

First, sometime, an adjustable base for your mattress might help out.  If you can get you legs and torso up, it will help you spend some time resting on your back, and give your hips a break.   If possible. you could set the foundation aside, try the adjustable base some day. If it didn't work, it would be returnable.  Just an idea.

As for shopping and trying beds in the store, it can be really tricky and how things feel only give a general indication.  As said before, as the hours pass on through the night, the material I've found that provides the most pressure relief is a quality memory foam mattress.  This Tempurpedic is doing it, and the iComfort I had did it too, although the iComfort model was little too plush / not enough support.

Good luck finding a topper that will work.  Not much experience there, so not much help in that area.

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Reply #5 Sep 26, 2011 6:39 AM
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I would suggest a latex topper if your mattress is not sagging.  Latex can be soft but provide support and last a long time.  Here is a thread with some recommendations:  http://www.whatsthebest-mattress.com/forum/latex-toppers/16314-0-1.html
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Reply #6 Sep 26, 2011 9:01 AM
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Thank you for the latex recommendation.  I will be checking out that website.  My mattress is a good one and at 2 years old and $2,000 I have to find a way to make it work.  The right topper makes sense.

Ginger

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Reply #7 Sep 26, 2011 1:29 PM
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sleeplikeabear.com is a good reference for latex toppers.  They're in Nevada.
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Reply #8 Sep 27, 2011 7:57 AM
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I will be contacting SLAB.  I tried something last night I hoped would work but it didn't help at all.  I turned my Costco foam topper around to sleep on the side that hadn't been being slept on, and put on a cheap egg crate topper.  No help at all.

Ginger

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Reply #9 Sep 27, 2011 10:09 AM
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Ginger,

I had a Stearns and Foster innerspring plush bed, brand new from Sears for about 4 weeks in June.  They had warned it would firm up after a week or so and it did.  I would imagine that firm Beautyrest firmed up quite a bit and is making things worse.  Think I mentioned before, but I have a not so good right shoulder, injury, arthro surgery years ago.  anyrate, so in July, I exchanged to a very plush iComfort memory foam mattress. Didn't take long to notice there was something special about a memory foam mattress - I could lay much longer on that right shoulder. I would always turn off it quickly before.

Funny thing is I tried a $100 Sleep Innovations 2.5" gel memory foam topper over my latex bed.  Not good.  It slept hot, I sunk in and pressure relief / comfort was not good.

I hope you have good luck with something like a low ILD talalay latex topper.  The top layer of latex on my SleepEZ is about 20.  Maybe something like a 15 ILD would work for you, but check with SLAB.

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Reply #10 Sep 27, 2011 11:39 AM
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Ginger, I sent you a PM.
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Reply #11 Sep 27, 2011 9:43 PM
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Doreen, I can't see a way to access a PM ???
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Reply #12 Sep 28, 2011 9:11 AM
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Just go to the top right, under your name you'll see "Messages".
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Reply #13 Sep 29, 2011 2:53 PM
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I have had an Omalon foam topper for several years now and on top of that an Ultimate CuddleBed mattress topper from Costco. It's been the perfect blend of soft and firm for me. The Omalon is lifetime guaranteed to retain its firmness. This is what is used in rug pads, so it has to have good support. I had bought mine from JC Penney when they were on clearance. They no longer sell it, but I see it here:



http://www.brylanehome.com/decor/Omalon-Foam-5Zone-Mattress-Topper.aspx?PfId=187315&DeptId=15164&ProductTypeId=1
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Reply #14 Sep 29, 2011 4:30 PM
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Thank you Beddy-Bye.  I'm keeping this information in case what I ordered isn't right for me, but I am very hopeful!

Ginger

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Reply #15 Sep 30, 2011 2:23 PM
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Hi, Gingery56,

 

I would suggest the Rejuvenite topper from Latex International. It comes in firm and plush (not sure what the ILD ratings are on each of them), and it's a 3-inch latex topper with a lovely cover on it (not that the cover matters all that much, but you will need a cover for any latex topper...this one comes with a nice one). I bought mine from Sleep Bargains (here's the link: http://www.shop.choicerest.com/Mattress-Toppers_c3.htm), but you can buy them from a number of retailers. I found that Sleep Bargains had the best price. The topper shipped directly from Latex International. I do love it. I bought the firm topper for a little more support, and then I placed two inches of super-soft latex on top (in the form of a lovely but very pricey latex topper from the Natural Mattress Store in Palo Alto, CA); you might do well to start with a plush topper, since you already have a supportive mattress underneath. I had a rock-hard slab of a mattress to start with...so I loaded up on the latex. Next time, I'm ditching the mattress and going all latex. :)

Hope this helps!

 

Jen

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Reply #16 Oct 4, 2011 11:50 PM
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We recently bought a Simmons Beautyrest firm mattress (because our old plush one started sagging in the middle) and instead of getting a built-in pillowtop, we added two toppers to make it comfortable for side sleeping.  What ended up working best was a 3" Invigo Fresh latex topper (consists of a bottom layer of 1.5" regular foam with a top layer of 1.5" latex foam, all in a terrycloth case) with a 2" zoned convoluted memory foam topper under it.  Together, these toppers have turned this painfully firm mattress into the most comfortable thing I've ever slept on!  It's stiill very supportive because of the firm mattress underneath, but it's very cozy and I get no shoulder, hip or neck stiffness.  Both of these toppers are available on Amazon.com.  The 2" Isotonic 6 Zone memory foam topper was less than $80 for a queen size, and the Invigo Fresh 3" natural latex mattress topper was $264. 
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Reply #17 Oct 7, 2011 7:24 PM
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Vlaurend,

I had already purchased the SLAB toppers and have spent $600.  I have only slept on them 3 nights and the jury is still out.  The first night wasn't a good test as I had mowed lawn for hours and my hips were really hurting from that all night.  The next night was a good night's sleep, then last night I didn't sleep well again but I don't think it was from pain.  I think my mind wouldn't shut off, so I'm waiting awhile before adding anything, but I might add the one you got from Amazon if I need more cushioning.  Another 1" from SLAB would be another $200.  Thanks for the info.

Ginger

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