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Re: Soliciting feedback on Vi-Spring and Hypnos - DianeK
Sep 14, 2010 3:39 PM
I came very close to buying a Hastens after trying them in a showroom for the better part of the day and loving them there.  But given I was looking at over $10,000 I decided to spend the money and fly to a city with a hotel that had one in one of their rooms.  Glad I did.  I did not sleep well.  I had to take the topper off part way through the night, my back was stiff in the morning, and I woke up congested.  The room didn't appear dusty (it was the Chicago Peninsula, no less, so doesn't get much more chic-chic than that!) so I had to assume that I was maybe sensitive to the horsehair - who knows.  All I can say is that I am glad I spent the $1000 that trip cost me to keep me from making a $10,000 mistake.  And just goes...
Re: Soliciting feedback on Vi-Spring and Hypnos - DianeK
Aug 23, 2010 8:48 PM
Besides their all latex models, Green Sleep also makes a mattress with hand-tied pocket coils which is topped with latex.  Their foundations are either slat-based, or dowel based, both of which have quite a bit of give.  I'm giving these serious consideration.  I have to say that the one night I slept on a Hypnos at a B&B was even more uncomfortable as the 3 nights I once slept on a tempurpedic!  Even my husband, at almost double my weight, found the Hypnos way too firm.  I don't doubt that they are excellently made beds but you really have to want a firm bed to get on of these.

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Re: Soliciting feedback on Vi-Spring and Hypnos - budgy
Sep 14, 2010 11:03 AM
Dear Bedsnob,

Ammonia is added to most latex that is shipped long distances to prevent vulcanization.  It is not added to make the product softer.  GreenSleep processes their latex without the use of ammonia as whatever they harvest in the morning is turned into rubber cores later the same day the need for ammonia as a stabilizing agent is simply not required...its not like when rubber is processed in the US or in Europe there is a large amount of aqueous ammonia added into the rubber during shipping.  Only a  small amount of ash is added to turn the product into a foam.  The end result for them is about 97% natural rubber content and some sulfur ash residual (also natural).  If you literally mean it isn't natural if it doesn't occur in nature in the shape of a mattress then nothing is truly natural.  On the poly...

Re: LONG TERM RECESSION - WHY ARE MATTRESS PRICES STILL SO HIGH? - budgy
Aug 31, 2010 6:05 PM
sandman wrote:

Budgy, it seems like there is not a lot of middle ground in the innerspring market.  You have the S brands that all use PU foam, even in their expensive ones (from what I can tell).  Then you have higher quality ones, Royal Pedic for example, but they seem to be out of most people's price range.   Is there nothing in between that uses high quality materials, but costs around $1,500-$2,500 (except maybe local makers) ?   Or is there no way to profitably make a quality name brand mattress at that price?


We are actually having the same basic trouble in our store. Which is that we have this enormous gap to fill between say $1500 in a queen and $2500.  All of the truly really good quality queen sets are starting at atleast $2500 in a queen (this is in Canada of...

Re: Soliciting feedback on Vi-Spring and Hypnos - michaelkyip
Sep 14, 2010 2:16 PM
budgy, what do you think about the new lien of Greensleep coil mattress? 

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Re: Soliciting feedback on Vi-Spring and Hypnos - michaelkyip
Sep 14, 2010 12:54 PM
bedsnob wrote:

I went to a store yesterday that had both Hypnos and Vi-Spring. I agree Hypnos was WAY too firm...solid like a rock. Sleeping on the floor would be less expensive option with the same feel. The Vi-Spring beds were much more comfortable, I like their philosophy...price points are nice and all natural materials are amazing. I love the guarentee and the promise they offer too. Have you heard of Hastens? You might consider that as an option as well if you are looking to invest and staying away from Latex. People have a funny way of thinking latex is natural, but unless it comes out of the tree (it is in it's original form a sap) in the shape of a mattress... it is not natural. They add fun things like amonia to it to make it soft and supple. Sticking with a company...
Re: Soliciting feedback on Vi-Spring and Hypnos - michaelkyip
Aug 23, 2010 8:06 PM
olenska wrote:

also check out the shifman handmade van gogh mattress. absolutely perfect. to me, the best bed I have ever slept on. not available at bloomingdales, stickley furniture in nyc sells them, as do many top end furniture stores on the east coast. Unless you are going to build your own, of course


Shifman is on my list but they don't have any dealer here in Vancouver, BC.

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Re: Soliciting feedback on Vi-Spring and Hypnos - michaelkyip
Aug 23, 2010 8:05 PM
DianeK wrote:

I do not own either but have checked them out quite extensively, and spent a night on a Hypnos.  As a 100lb female side sleeper this is how I would rate them:  Hypnos - very firm, Vi-Spring - firm to medium-firm.  I would recommend adding Green Sleep to your list as they make a high quality spring bed and use latex as the comfort top which won't compress like some of the other fibres used in Hypnos and Vi-Spring upholstery.  They would all be in a similar price range.


Thanks for your reply, DianeK.  I share the same impression as you regarding both brand with my brief visit to a retailer over the weekend.  They have on the floor Hemsley and Sherbourne from Hypos Castle series, The Signatory, Regal Supreme and Baronet Supreme from Vi-Spring.  Having able to try...

Re: Soliciting feedback on Vi-Spring and Hypnos - bedsnob
Sep 14, 2010 3:30 PM
Yeah there are millions of ways to process latex. http://www.sleepezbeds.com/latex-buyers-guide.html The point is, if it is in sap form is is natural latex, once you CHANGE it, it's not natural. Adding sulfur, ammonia, ash doesn't in any way convince me that latex is the way to go. Side note: I did sleep on a nice latex/spring bed for many years that was a hand me down. It was from a small company in Idaho that makes all their mattresses. That is neither here nor there...the person I was addressing who is looking for a bed specifically said they were looking for brands that had springs vs. latex. I own a Hastens. I am for sure a living testament to how amazing it has been and life transforming. I have had my bed for 3 years now, and it is better now than it was originally. My boyfriend loves it too...pretty...
Re: Soliciting feedback on Vi-Spring and Hypnos - bedsnob
Sep 14, 2010 10:04 AM
I went to a store yesterday that had both Hypnos and Vi-Spring. I agree Hypnos was WAY too firm...solid like a rock. Sleeping on the floor would be less expensive option with the same feel. The Vi-Spring beds were much more comfortable, I like their philosophy...price points are nice and all natural materials are amazing. I love the guarentee and the promise they offer too. Have you heard of Hastens? You might consider that as an option as well if you are looking to invest and staying away from Latex. People have a funny way of thinking latex is natural, but unless it comes out of the tree (it is in it's original form a sap) in the shape of a mattress... it is not natural. They add fun things like amonia to it to make it soft and supple. Sticking with a company that uses zero synthetics is going...

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