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Re: Just bought a new Flobeds - eagle2
Jan 4, 2010 8:19 AM
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As a follow-up to my last post regarding the installation of the new firm layer I have this report.

At first this firm layer on top of two extra firm layers felt as you might expect, quite firm. But after I have lain upon it for several nights it has become more comfortable. So my configuration is now left side of bed, F/XF/XF  right-sided bid F/F/XF.

The more I sleep on natural latex the more I am convinced that one's...
Re: My Latex Topper Smells. Bad Apple? - eagle2
Dec 6, 2009 5:35 PM
MattFaunce wrote:
Hi. I bought two 1" talalay latex toppers from Foam by Mail and they feel great, but they smell horrible. It was oppressive. I put them outside for a week to air out, and at the end of the week I could smell them from 10 feet away. I decided to leave them out through the rain and let them dry out. The smell is still oppressive. I bought them in early summer, about June, and it still smells so bad I don't want to use them. Did I get a bad apple, or do all latex toppers smell? Should I buy some new ones from someone else?

As Kimberly has indicated, she and I both have latex from FloBeds who does business exclusively with Latex International.

Her bed is made out of blended latex. Mine is made out of 100% botanically grown natural latex. I recently acquired...
Re: Just bought a new Flobeds - eagle2
Dec 4, 2009 2:10 PM
linda wrote:
Oops, my message appears to be missing a line now. I was saying that some of the pieces form Flobeds also have the LI label still on them, indicating the exact ILD as measured by LI. Perhaps your pieces do, and you know they are different ILDs, but I wanted to mention that this might be a factor in addition to the differences in density.

You know Linda, you make a very interesting point. Yes I have noticed that some of the pieces of latex have the original Latex International calculations pasted on them.

In fact the medium piece of all-natural, as rated by Latex International, was 26.2 ILD, as best I can recall. The FloBeds sticker said 28 ILD. My assumption is that for the convenience of warehousing and therefore picking layers to ship to customers FloBeds tries and standardize their ILD ratings. So in essence...
Re: So many choices (would like latex mattress preferably not go over $2000) - KimberlyH
Dec 26, 2009 5:44 AM
Hi Dave,

When you first get started looking at latex, things can be confusing.  This is because there are many variables to latex:

1) The manufacturing method.  The oldest method is called Dunlop and a "newer" (but still around for decades) method is called Talalay.  You can read about the difference in the manufacturing method here:

http://www.latexfoam.com/index.php?did=12#1
http://www.savvyrest.com/helpful-info/natural-dunlop-talalay


Some people prefer Dunlop latex, some people prefer Talalay latex.  Some people think that Dunlop latex, being denser than Talalay latex, is more supportive.  I have tried mattresses made from both types of latex, and I don't believe this is true - provided you get the right firmness.

2) The type of latex.  Basically there are two types of latex:
     a) 100% natural botanically grown latex
     b)  Blended latex (typically 70% synthetic and 30% natural)

Read about the differences here:

http://www.latexfoam.com/index.php?did=12#10

Here again you will find a wide range of opinions regarging what is "best."  Some people are purists and...
Re: Help me to choose? - linda
Dec 12, 2009 8:50 AM
Hi Elaine, I have a lot of muscle, nerve and joint pain as well as back problems, so need a very supportive mattress but with soft on top in order to relieve pressure points (side sleeper). I ended up going with Flobeds who were great to deal with. I got 100% natural talalay latex (they don't carry dunlop or I probably would have gotten that for the lower layer at least as it's denser and perhaps more supportive). If you look through my past threads as well as those of others (Eagle and Kimberly have both posted their experiences with talalay latex in terms of their back issues, and others such as Catlover have posted positive experiences with dunlop from Savvyrest). And there are of course many other informative posts. Seems like a few people, such as Jim (known for his mattress surgery...
Re: New Natural Latex Beds on Sale Now at Costco - JasonRatky
Dec 29, 2009 10:08 PM
becky wrote:
Before ordering mine (last night!), I called Sleep Science and asked about their statement of the 100% natural latex. The customer service rep was very nice on the phone and assured me that there are no fillers. She said all 4 layers are 100% natural latex. Costco's site states "The Sleep Science Natural Comfort Latex Mattress is 100% natural latex throughout" and "Certified by the ECO-INSTITUT as 100% Dunlop processed natural latex". Not that the company can't lie. But that is what they put in writing and stated over the phone.



i HOPE so.  because according to savvyrest's statement on what the eco institute certifies exactly, "The Eco Institut does not label anything as organic, such as an organic mattress. They merely test to be sure that materials meet certain thresholds for emissions...

Re: Help with softer Latex topper than FBM "Soft" 20 ILD on top of firm Stearns Foster Luxury Firm? - shovel99
Dec 24, 2009 10:23 AM
HI Folks,
Some more twists and turns.  When I wrote this, I had the S & F English Meadows Luxury Firm ( think this is Macys version of base model S&F which I bought from the good folks at mattressbarn.com in atlanta).  I tried an Ikea TVEIT topper which is a 1" latex... 20% natural 80% synthetic topper in a nice zippered cloth bag... thinking I could return it if I didn't like it.  It felt more like 2 inches of folded fabric and was not supportive.  When I got it back to IKEA, they refused a return and gave me store credit.  Desperate not to lose $200... I took their 2 3/8 inch memory foam topper called Tajford.... $250.... which felt great in the store... very firm, supportive.  Turned into a nightmare in less than 2 hours.... the usual memory foam problem... deep hole, hot, hard, slow recovery that I...
Help with softer Latex topper than FBM "Soft" 20 ILD on top of firm Stearns Foster Luxury Firm? - shovel99
Dec 11, 2009 5:04 PM
Hi Folks,

Thanks to all on this forum who share their insights on getting a better bed combo/night's sleep.

I have been through 16 mattresses and 30 toppers in all combinations to try to build a bed my 5'3" 110 lb back sleeping wife (likes firm) and I (170lb 50/50 side and back sleeper (medium)... with lower back pain... can sleep on.  And both of us are hot and hate the heat aspect of foam mattresses and padding.  We are a tough case.  But my back has been killling me for 4 years, such that I had/have to do something.

At least 1500 hours logged in mattress blogs, mattress stores, and swapping them and giving away toppers.

We spent 4 years and thousands of dollars and hours chasing "sleep separation".... "conforming mattresses" ( Beautyrest, separate coils, memory and latex foam) ... before Iearned in the last month n  Peter Cancellis blog that...
Re: New Natural Latex Beds on Sale Now at Costco - becky
Dec 29, 2009 10:38 AM
KimberlyH wrote:
I would think that any traditional foundation would be suitable.  I didn't order the slat foundation from Flobed when I got my latex mattress, I went down to my local mattress store and bought a regular foundation for $200 and had them deliver it.  It's working fine.

BTW I was browsing the Savvy Rest site FAQ and under their "Dunlop or Talalay?" link they make the following statement: 

"Some companies add “fillers” such as clay to make the latex go further. (If you find a Queen natural latex mattress for $1000 or less, there are fillers.)"

This really makes me wonder whether the latex in these Costco beds has fillers.  The price is *so* much lower than what the established latex mattress companies are offering.

Has anyone ordered and had one delivered yet?  If so, what's your experience been?



Re: Just bought a new Flobeds - cityskies
Jan 1, 2010 7:43 PM

For those viewing this thread to learn more about Flobeds, I wanted to echo Eagle and everyone else who has spoken so highly of the company and Dewey and David's customer service. I ordered and tried a 100% all natural talalay latex bed with the v-Zone, and while it was easily the most comfortable bed I've ever slept on, I ultimately had to return it because it didn't suit my back (I have major back problems). I really wanted to keep it, so held on to it until the very end of my trial period hoping my body would adjust. Flobeds credited me for the full amount I paid minus shipping and pillows, (pillows are nonrefundable) -- even credited the custom frame they built for me and the v-Zone which they made to my specs. As you can imagine, I felt really badly about this particularly since they had spent...

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