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Re: mattress surgeons - jimsocal
Dec 11, 2009 12:06 PM
sandman wrote:
Jim, I have heard about the problems with the individual coils as well, so I am thinking about Sealy as the starting point.  Their cheapest (queen) have 420 12.75 gauge springs and their expensive ones have 782 14 guage.  I tried both, and the 782 seemed more supportive.  I am a little worried about the 14 gauge, but my understanding is that the way they connect them increases the effective firmness level.  Any thoughts?  I know you bought an Englander, but I am not even sure where they sell those.  I could not tell from their website, but will check again.

Right now I have latex, which does not cause any pain issues for me, but I do find it hot.  I am leaning towards trying an innerspring on the theory that it can disperse the heat better through the largerly air filled spring section.   I also think...

Re: mattress surgeons - jimsocal
Dec 10, 2009 2:21 PM
sandman wrote:
Actually I do have money for a startup if I thought it would be profitable, and I live in Socal as well.  Yeah, the returns would probably be a killer.  Although, every store has to deal with that issue.   However a local store where people can try in advance would help. 

I just stopped by Macy's to lay on some innerspring.  The higher spring count Sealy (780 queen?) defiinitely felt more supportive than the 730 coil count.  Same guage.  I don't think the firm had too much foam/padding. Felt pretty good.   I also like the Simmons extra firm.  I think that has 900+ pocketed coil of 13.25 guage.  Slightly firmer feel than the Sealy. The salesman could not tell me the extra amount of inches of stuff on top of the Simmons, but I may be able to research both at US Mattress.  Not sure how well the pocketed...

Re: Mattress Comparison - KimberlyH
Dec 12, 2009 9:36 AM
I know that there is very little latex inside the mattress, and it has several layers of PU foam, which will most likely break down very quickly and cause craters in your bed . . . look at US mattress to see what is inside the Springfree.  The website has a chart of all the Simmons/Sealy/Serta "latex" mattresses and breakdown of what is actually inside these mattresses.  They aren't 100% latex.

http://site.namebrandbeds.com/latex-mattress-comparison-chart.html
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Re: Help with softer Latex topper than FBM "Soft" 20 ILD on top of firm Stearns Foster Luxury Firm? - sandman
Dec 11, 2009 8:21 PM
From what I have seen, most of the Stearns and Foster have indidually wrapped coils.  I think they are different than the Sealys.  Are you sure the one you got is interlinked? 

Anyway, it seems that the 2" of firm dunlop is probably a waste on top of the 4" or so of foam that the S&F probably already has.  I would think that just 2" of something softer would be the way to go.  Only can tell by trial and error.  You might want to order 1".  See if it is enough (with and without the dunlop), and order another inch if necessary.  The 2" dunlop might come in handy eventually, if/when the S&F foam eventually goes bad.  You may want to cut off the top and put in your own foam starting with the 2" dunlop.

p.s. the blended Talalay Talatech I have has holes about 1/4-3/8".  It might...

Re: mattress surgeons - sandman
Dec 10, 2009 3:42 PM
Jim, I have heard about the problems with the individual coils as well, so I am thinking about Sealy as the starting point.  Their cheapest (queen) have 420 12.75 gauge springs and their expensive ones have 782 14 guage.  I tried both, and the 782 seemed more supportive.  I am a little worried about the 14 gauge, but my understanding is that the way they connect them increases the effective firmness level.  Any thoughts?  I know you bought an Englander, but I am not even sure where they sell those.  I could not tell from their website, but will check again.

Right now I have latex, which does not cause any pain issues for me, but I do find it hot.  I am leaning towards trying an innerspring on the theory that it can disperse the heat better through the largerly air filled spring section.   I also think the mattress cover is...

Re: Anyone try Serta 'cool' memory foam topper? - JasonRatky
Dec 9, 2009 8:41 PM
sandman wrote:
 They may be slightly less warm.  I am currently trying a 1" Celsion topper.  It seems a few degrees cooler than regular latex (it heats up to about 87-88 degrees vs. 90-91).  So,  I would not say it is cool, but a little less hot. 



thanks for the f.b. sandman, celsion does sound promising.  & for someone who cranks their a/c near max to sleep (not much left on the thermostat to further compensate for any warmer a bed), i would pay the extra ~15% to save every degree possible.  i only wish it were available in the ultra firm ild's like their regular latex toppers. no point in that for s.l.a.b. though since most will not want that firm of a top layer, & that's almost the only layer you'd be investing in the cooler foams for anyway. 

re: "outlast"- i was just laughing at the safety disclaimer of it in Sealy's "cool springs", their version of m.f. they claim sleeps cooler.  so not...

eXtended Life XL mattresses designed specifically for big people... lifetime warranty. - JasonRatky
Dec 7, 2009 10:35 PM
lifetime on springs & foundation might not sound so impressive considering those last for a long time anyway, for most people.  still, i haven't seen too many other companies say anything "lifetime" in their warranty at all, much less targeting big guys with them.  but it's their 20 years on comfort layers/quilting etc. that has me wondering how they could even honor that. with visco & "eXtended Life foam" in there, along w/latex.

otherwise i can't find a whole lot of info on them in the way of reviews or even from their website, re: construction.  but sears carries them (just not in available at any of my sears, so i'd have to drive a ways) & what i like is for warranty claims you can just take the mattress directly back to sears.  if it's anything like their no-questions lifetime warranty on tools it would be the best mattress warranty ever.  i am curious though, with less than 500 coils in a queen (per sears c.s.),...

Re: New Natural Latex Beds on Sale Now at Costco - JasonRatky
Dec 6, 2009 9:00 PM
elisa wrote:
Thanks, much, Tuan209. :) I will definitely look into it. 

I have a broader question to ask about this bed + topper.

Concerns with the Costco bed seem to be that it might not feel firm enough - if that's the case, is it possible to increase the firmness with a topper?  I've read about several instances of making a too-firm mattress feel softer and more comfortable with a topper; but I'm not sure if it can work the other way.  If  "not firm enough" means "not enough support" (does it?) than can you really increase that with a topper?

Thoughts?



yeah i.d.k. how that's going to work out, because i've only read about toppers taking you softer.  the only evidence i can think of that might support what we're trying is looking at spring mattresses.  sealy for instance has their range of firm, cushion firm, plush, etc. & so long as you stay within the same class...

Help with softer Latex topper than FBM "Soft" 20 ILD on top of firm Stearns Foster Luxury Firm? - shovel99
Dec 11, 2009 5:04 PM
Hi Folks,

Thanks to all on this forum who share their insights on getting a better bed combo/night's sleep.

I have been through 16 mattresses and 30 toppers in all combinations to try to build a bed my 5'3" 110 lb back sleeping wife (likes firm) and I (170lb 50/50 side and back sleeper (medium)... with lower back pain... can sleep on.  And both of us are hot and hate the heat aspect of foam mattresses and padding.  We are a tough case.  But my back has been killling me for 4 years, such that I had/have to do something.

At least 1500 hours logged in mattress blogs, mattress stores, and swapping them and giving away toppers.

We spent 4 years and thousands of dollars and hours chasing "sleep separation".... "conforming mattresses" ( Beautyrest, separate coils, memory and latex foam) ... before Iearned in the last month n  Peter Cancellis blog that...
Mattress Comparison - cwomack09
Dec 12, 2009 6:03 AM
I need to buy a king-sized mattress and am looking at the Sealy Posturepedic Springfree which is a latex mattress at $1700 or the Comforpedic which is a memory foam for $3800.   I currently have a queen Comforpedic which I love but we didn't pay anywhere near the $3800 at the time and I'm having a very hard time even contemplating spending this much money on another Comforpedic.  With that said, does anyone know anything about the Posturepedic Springfree?...

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