mattress surgeons
Dec 1, 2009 7:07 AM
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what are the heaviest duty guage, highest quality springs you've found in any conventional mattress you were willing to slice up? 
Re: mattress surgeons
Reply #9 Dec 10, 2009 8:42 PM
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Jim, I have heard about the problems with the individual coils as well, so I am thinking about Sealy as the starting point.  Their cheapest (queen) have 420 12.75 gauge springs and their expensive ones have 782 14 guage.  I tried both, and the 782 seemed more supportive.  I am a little worried about the 14 gauge, but my understanding is that the way they connect them increases the effective firmness level.  Any thoughts?  I know you bought an Englander, but I am not even sure where they sell those.  I could not tell from their website, but will check again.

Right now I have latex, which does not cause any pain issues for me, but I do find it hot.  I am leaning towards trying an innerspring on the theory that it can disperse the heat better through the largerly air filled spring section.   I also think the mattress cover is important to the heat factor.  Do you know what they put in the better ones to help minimize heat?

As far as a customizable innerspring business, I think it would be interesting.  I assume one would have to partner with a major manufacturer to build the spring component and someone to make the zippered cover.  The various types of foam could probably be bought on a wholesale basis.  I would see it more as a retail store initially, as opposed to over the internet, due to shipping issues.  I guess shipping could eventually be worked out if it catches on. 

Re: mattress surgeons
Reply #10 Dec 10, 2009 9:23 PM
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Jim...... Sandman: Leggett and Platt have been in the box spring, steel spring, business for 125 years and are the principal supplier of springs to most mattress manufacturers. Go here to their own website and read all about it.

http://www.beddingcomponents.com/

Good luck with your proposed venture.
Re: mattress surgeons
Reply #11 Dec 11, 2009 5:06 PM
Location: L.A. area
Joined: Jan 18, 2008
Points: 1161
sandman wrote:
Jim, I have heard about the problems with the individual coils as well, so I am thinking about Sealy as the starting point.  Their cheapest (queen) have 420 12.75 gauge springs and their expensive ones have 782 14 guage.  I tried both, and the 782 seemed more supportive.  I am a little worried about the 14 gauge, but my understanding is that the way they connect them increases the effective firmness level.  Any thoughts?  I know you bought an Englander, but I am not even sure where they sell those.  I could not tell from their website, but will check again.

Right now I have latex, which does not cause any pain issues for me, but I do find it hot.  I am leaning towards trying an innerspring on the theory that it can disperse the heat better through the largerly air filled spring section.   I also think the mattress cover is important to the heat factor.  Do you know what they put in the better ones to help minimize heat?

As far as a customizable innerspring business, I think it would be interesting.  I assume one would have to partner with a major manufacturer to build the spring component and someone to make the zippered cover.  The various types of foam could probably be bought on a wholesale basis.  I would see it more as a retail store initially, as opposed to over the internet, due to shipping issues.  I guess shipping could eventually be worked out if it catches on. 



Sorry, can't help you with the mattress cover question. I always cut those off and throw them away. I just don't like the feel of the "tufted buttons" type mattress top.
Also I am not much help with the springs. I really don't know springs that well. I went with the Englander based on a good experience I had sleeping on one at a hotel. I think they're good but I can't really say for sure. I think your guess is as good as mine. If that mattress sales guy is around maybe he could answer... forgot his handle at the moment...

Unfortunately I think springs are largely the same as foam: you have to just try them and see if you like them. But that is an expensive proposition, I know. But I really don't have much experience with springs. I did have a Sealy that I did surgery on (got it at CostCo) and it seemed to me the springs wore out after 5 years or so, so I threw it away. My wife is still sleeping on hers and they seem okay for her. Not sure if mine really wore out or not. But that's why I bought the Englander and I like the idea that they are 12.5 guage.

The way I found Englander - and the best price on one - was just by calling around to mattress stores via the yellow pages. "Do you sell Englander?" Yes. "How much for a Twin Malibu Firm?" If one guy asked for more $ than the previous, I allowed him to beat the previous quote.

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