waterbed questions
Dec 13, 2009 7:08 AM
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Hello, I'm starting a new thread to attract those that use waterbeds and all their wisdom.... the only time i had a waterbed was one with softsides and TUBES, i would love to have this kind of bed, but i found that my backside slid between the tubes of water!! now this was over 20 years ago, and i wonder if they have changed the design of these tubed waterbed so that this doesn't happen anymore? does anybody have experience with this? also, i would like to hear about waveless waterbeds and back pain... how are people finding waterbeds for the pain? i can't seem to sleep on anything for more than 5 hours without having to get up and let the pain go away... would a waterbed help? and REALLY how much of a risk is there of flooding your home?? should i put a drain under my bed? lol thanks! elaine
Re: waterbed questions
Reply #15 Jun 25, 2011 7:56 PM
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We loved our softside water bed for many years (15?). No problem slipping between the tubes, as the zip cover was heavily padded. Advantages were: Looked like a regular mattress when zipped,  the comfort,  and that we could use regular size sheets. Disadvantages - hard to move the bed and the padding in the cover was cheap foam that over the years deteriorated until the mattress was sagging. We had only one leaky tube in 15 years. The cover is far too thick for the cat's claws to go through.

Our new mattress is latex and we are happy with it.

Re: waterbed questions
Reply #16 Jun 25, 2011 8:35 PM
Joined: Dec 13, 2009
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weewillywinky wrote:

 


Thanks, Ahhmunky! I've been thinking over this possibility. Does anyone out there have any experience with soft sided waterbeds? I have a massive wooden bedframe that I am loathe to deal with selling and replacing, but then again, it might be worth it, if I was sure a hardsided waterbed was what I wanted and would be happy with. The hardside waterbed mattresses certainly are attractively priced. What about emptying and moving waterbeds? How hard is it with a pump? I've read people say it's a PITA and still rather heavy to move and deal with even when emptied, because, I gather, it's relatively impossible to remove all the water, even with a pump. I'd be interested in any readers' experiences with waterbeds in general. Thanks, again!



I have a waveless hardside waterbed and love it!  Like I said in one of my earlier posts, I don't have to worry about dust mites and my allergies are much better now.

In the winter it is nice and warm and in the summer I turn down the heater and it is nice and cool.  I find the maintenance very easy and wish I had discovered these years ago.

Re: waterbed questions
Reply #17 Jun 26, 2011 11:32 AM
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Floats wrote:



I have a waveless hardside waterbed and love it!  Like I said in one of my earlier posts, I don't have to worry about dust mites and my allergies are much better now.

In the winter it is nice and warm and in the summer I turn down the heater and it is nice and cool.  I find the maintenance very easy and wish I had discovered these years ago.


I appreciate these comments and all of the comments from the members of this forum. We are so lucky to have this forum and be able to learn from the experiences and knowledge of others. I really appreciate you all!

I have a couple more questions or comments about waterbeds. I have read that the electricity required for warming the water is significant. As a "green" I'm concerned about electricity consumption due to the environmental costs and consequences of electricity production. So my question is: if you don't heat the water, are waterbeds with foam or other toppers between you and the water mattress "cold"? I've read some comments saying they tend to feel on the cool side. This might be all right in the summer, but what about winter? Has anyone succesfully overcome this with the use of toppers (latex, wool, other) or going with a particular manufacturer's covering?

Another question: how heavy are filled waterbeds? What kind of platform or foundation is required to support the weight?

Another question: with the softsided mattresses, does the foam structure surrounding them tend to break down over time? How durable are they?

Thanks again!

Re: waterbed questions
Reply #18 Jun 26, 2011 8:55 PM
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weewillywinky wrote:

 


I appreciate these comments and all of the comments from the members of this forum. We are so lucky to have this forum and be able to learn from the experiences and knowledge of others. I really appreciate you all!

I have a couple more questions or comments about waterbeds. I have read that the electricity required for warming the water is significant. As a "green" I'm concerned about electricity consumption due to the environmental costs and consequences of electricity production. So my question is: if you don't heat the water, are waterbeds with foam or other toppers between you and the water mattress "cold"? I've read some comments saying they tend to feel on the cool side. This might be all right in the summer, but what about winter? Has anyone succesfully overcome this with the use of toppers (latex, wool, other) or going with a particular manufacturer's covering?

Another question: how heavy are filled waterbeds? What kind of platform or foundation is required to support the weight?

Another question: with the softsided mattresses, does the foam structure surrounding them tend to break down over time? How durable are they?

Thanks again!

I set my waterbed heater between 87 -90 degrees.  I keep the blankets pulled up to help hold in the heat and insulate the waterbed.  I think it costs me around 14 to 20 dollars a month but it also allows me to keep my thermostat turned down in my bedroom, so my heating bill is lower.

 

No doubt a waterbed is heavy when filled but when it is drained it is lighter then a conventional mattress.  A hardside mattress requires a special frame that holds the bladder.

 

Newer hybrid waterbeds(softside) have largely done away with the need for a heating system and the decision of whether or not to have a heater is strictly one of a personal preference and comfort. 

Re: waterbed questions
Reply #19 Jun 27, 2011 2:01 AM
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Joined: May 13, 2011
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I live in California where this is no winter.  But I leave my house on 60 in the winter.  I don't find the softsider bed any colder/warmer than spring mattress.  The bed with tubes had instructions to DO NOT USE A HEATER.  I wouldn't waste the electricity on a heated waterbed.  I suppose electric blankets should not be used with a waterbed either.

The foam along the edge of my bed has not broken down.  The edge of the bed seems firm.  It sags in the middle.

Water weighs approximately 1 lbs per gallon.  According to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterbed">wikipedia</a> waterbed of size 160 x 200 x 020 cm weighs about 1400 lbs/640 kg.  YMMV.

Given the number of choices on the market today, I would not recommend purchasing a waterbed.  Unless you have special needs that only a waterbed can satisfy, buy something else.

 

 

Re: waterbed questions
Reply #20 Jun 27, 2011 8:16 AM
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Thanks, Floats and Sleepswithcats! I appreciate the information! It's good to see the pros and cons.

Sleepswithcats, do you think the sagging in the middle is due to the breakdown of the baffles (fibers) that make it a waveless bed? I read about the various systems and it seems to be a potential problem since there are not some really good solutions out there, or so it seems to me. Waves are a problem, too, of course, when you're tossing and turning, trying to get some sleep, or filling it to the point you get a very hard surface so as to avoid the problem of waves.

Again, many thanks! Better to know what you're dealing with in thoughts and words before you have to deal with the actual thing itself, particularly when they are so big and expensive.

Re: waterbed questions
Reply #21 Jun 27, 2011 8:33 PM
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weewillywinky wrote:

 


Thanks, Ahhmunky! I've been thinking over this possibility. Does anyone out there have any experience with soft sided waterbeds? I have a massive wooden bedframe that I am loathe to deal with selling and replacing, but then again, it might be worth it, if I was sure a hardsided waterbed was what I wanted and would be happy with. The hardside waterbed mattresses certainly are attractively priced. What about emptying and moving waterbeds? How hard is it with a pump? I've read people say it's a PITA and still rather heavy to move and deal with even when emptied, because, I gather, it's relatively impossible to remove all the water, even with a pump. I'd be interested in any readers' experiences with waterbeds in general. Thanks, again!

 

Things I liked about our old softside waterbed:

  • I thought it was really comfortable. 
  • We could use normal sheets on it
  • It looked like a regular bed / did not take up as much room as a hard-sided one
  • Draining it was not all that hard, although a little time-consuming

Things I didn't like about our old softside:

  • It was heavy / not very easy to move
  • We did patch a few leaks over the years, although nothing major
  • I slept a little hot in it.
  • After we had gotten a new bed & moved this into the guest room, visitors would often complain about it (so your mileage may vary on a waterbed)
Re: waterbed questions
Reply #22 Jun 28, 2011 1:30 AM
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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weewillywinky, I don't know why the bed sagged.  It does not have a bladder; it has tubes.  When the bed was new, it was great.  It had no motion; it felt just as good as any new mattress.  I didn't realize how bad it had gotten with only one person sleeping in it.  But with two, it was noticable.
Re: waterbed questions
Reply #23 Jun 28, 2011 11:33 PM
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sleepswithcats wrote:

weewillywinky, I don't know why the bed sagged.  It does not have a bladder; it has tubes.  When the bed was new, it was great.  It had no motion; it felt just as good as any new mattress.  I didn't realize how bad it had gotten with only one person sleeping in it.  But with two, it was noticable.


Thanks, Sleeps! just curious! And i appreciate you pointing out that a waterbed can weigh 3/4 of a ton. And here I thought Latex was heavy!

awesome waterbeds
Reply #24 Apr 9, 2012 12:09 PM
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I searched and searched. I found an option I like at awesomewaterbeds.com. I am gonna get dual mattresses for king sized and 2 heating elements, and keep my king sized waterbed frame. I will let you know how it turns out. The posts on this forum were so helpful. Thank you!

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