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http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Comfort-Dreamcoil-2-Inch-Memory/dp/B000B8FXUI/

is the same as the Carpenter Dream Coil that has been discussed in this forum. There's no mention that it's "Omalon", a PU foam that the Dream Coil is made of. Instead, the Dreamcoil is described as being "Visco-elastic Memory foam". If it were the same, btw, people who wanted the Dream Coil in a size other than Twin XL would be very happy, because what Amazon is selling is available in all sizes *except* Twin XL .

Btw, the Twin XL Dream Coil sold by JC Penney is 4" longer than the "too short" Twin Dreamcoil sold by Amazon and about $25 cheaper, even taking into account the postage. (With a JCP coupon code it's $30 cheaper)

http://www5.jcpenney.com/jcp/Products.aspx?ItemID=1490455&ItemTyp=G&GrpTyp=STY&ShowMenu=T&ShopBy

Philly888

I plan on buying two from JCPenneys and cutting off the extra to fit our queen mattress.  Do you think that will work?  I just google the name of Dream Coil Topper and it brought up Amazon's website so I just looked at it there and was wondering if it was similar to JCPenny's. 

Thanks

Emi 

Emi

Thanks,

Emi

Yes I haven't prdered the CuddleBed yet but will next week and that will be a queen size.  We have a 7 inch firm latex mattress in a waterbed frame with a 3 in visco elastic memory foam topper.  I have a 2 inch foamex resilitex that is a medium firmness but I am getting rid of this.  We will have to experiment I am sure to get it totally right but this will be a start and with any luck this might work with what we have. With my husbands' back and neck fusion he doesn't want to even try a coil mattress because he is afraid it would be hard on his pressure points.

Emi

After sleeping on the Dream Coil I woke up a bit achy and so did my husband although that can randomly happen with us anyway. We both felt we tossed and turned more to get comfortable although the bed felt heavenly when we first went to sleep.

If I put my old convoluted HR topper back on with the Dream Coil on top it will be too high and probably be even more bouyant. Should I try a 1-2 inch piece of latex under the dream coil? We tried the dream coil so we could have better support in our lower back since my husband uses a CPAP machine and needs to stay on his back for the oxygen and mask to work most successfully.

Just to refresh everone's memory--I have a sealy springfree bed that has a 6" Dunlop core, 34 ILD, then 3 layers of I" talalay with ILD's of 37, 28, and 19 in that order. It has some PU foam on top as well. I really need some help here. This mattress felt so comfortable when I first got it but after sinking into it during the night it felt hard the next morning, thus my topper experimentation. You all are the pros and I do need advice before trying another topper even if its talalay latex.

Thanks in advance--Sabra

I am so stressed from my deadlines that I have to try to complete today despite coughing all night (think I need to wash my oversized Queen Comforter but I have no time to go to the laundry mat until after April 15th... unless this is not allergies and I am having a relapse from being sick for so long due to being run down from my car accident and my father's death last year) but I am taking a short break to see what is up on this forum to see if it will temporarily get my mind off of what I am still missing for finishing all there returns to have less extensions.

Sabra, It is unfortunate that you can not unzip the Sealy cover to rearrange the latex cores to give you the comfort you each need on each side of the bed. But since you can't, I am still thnking with a little more effort and a lot of patience, you can find a way to make your bed doable for you and your husband. I am thinking that if you have not tried the 1" Talalay Latex topper from Brylane, then you should since the return policy is excellent and it is soft and made very well and only 1" thick.  Then you can see how the bed is only with this topper under a fitted sheet and then try it under the Dream Coil Topper.  If you end up loving the topper, then you should find a cover for it, even if it is just a thin cotton duvet cover on sale. I have my topper under the zippered cover of my FloBed.  I like the topper very much for cushion for my shoulders but I had to make my bed firmer underneath me (which I could do do to the zippered cover by moving the latex cores around) to make the topper work for me since I like very firm beds despite my petite size.  I do not like sinking in and that is why my latex cores are all more than 35 ILD on my side of the bed with a 44 ILD in the equation but a soft 1 inch topper over the three thicker latex cores.  After my car accident my back is not the same so I feel bad for anyone with back problems that can really affect a good night's sleep as muscle spasms and nerve pinching changes each night.  I am sorry about your husband.

The other option is what I did when my bed fell apart and teh bed I ordered from Rockaway bed I was allergic to (Polyurethane outgases) and had to be taken away. I slept on the floor over a 1" topper over a 1/2" exercise mat and it was very comfortable and supportive for me. I just hated to be on the floor but for me it was a good temporary measure until I had time to do research and order my FloBed that I love.

Sorry to hear about your Sealy King latex bed--that is what I have too. Please tell me which model you have and the date purchased; mine is Mangrove Bay/Rivercrest, May of 2005. Even though it has  a very soft top layer, we sank down through the night to the hard core and became more uncomfortable as the night wore on. It has slight body indentions on each side where my husband and I sleep.

Two things have helped:I recently did a quarter turn and shifted around the top sheet, blanket and comforter. Guess what? No noticeable indentions! I've read that sometimes doing the quarter turn versus the half turn will even everything out over time. We shall see if it actually works since this is the first time I've done it.

Also, I added a new topper. I tried the Dream Coil topper and although it is a wonderful product, we needed something a bit thicker so I'm returning it. We have a foam outlet close by and I purchased a king size HR 2" no-name mattress grade eggcrate for $53 (don't know ILD but I've used my old queen size for 12 years and it hasn't worn out yet) to go on top and it helped soften everything. I have a thick mattress pad on top of it and the mattress. Are there any foam stores or outlets near you? Mine is in Asheville, NC and they don't mail anything.

I may still purchase a 1" latex layer to go on top of the eggcrate for a little extra softness. I tried memory foam toppers in different densities and heights and returned them all. I hope you can find something that will work for you. Hopefully there's an answer other than buying a new mattress.

Get this...my sister's neighbor sold her a 25 year old mattress in pristine condition for $50 when he moved. I slept on it 2 nights ago and it was absolutely wonderful...firm enought for my back, soft enough for no pressure points. Why can't mattresses be made like that now?

I sent an email to the folks at Flobed since I've heard so much good about them. I'm not convinced that we'd be happy with the memory foam. They sent a very quick email reply, and stated that they sell a convoluted latex topper that is also the top layer for their latex mattresses, but that it is really more suited as a comfort level and pressure point relief, and not so much for providing some additional support. However, he said that they would be willing to sell me one of their 3" latex cores in whatever firmness we needed, even though it sounds like that is not something they normally do, and even allow us credit for the price of that if we eventually purchase an entire mattress from them. They sounded very anxious to help in any way that they can. (Gee - wonder who I'll go to first when we do have the cash for a new mattress? :) )

So here's a question for you experts - if I'm going to purchase a new latex core for our king sized bed, to use as a support topper, what type of firmness should we try? We're side and stomach sleepers, about 175 and 140 lbs each, and prefer a bit firmer bed (though not "hard".)

In the meantime we'll try the quarter turn of the mattress - hey, what could it hurt? ;)

Thanks

Jeff

Jeff, if your mattress is sagging or the foam has softened up to the point where you're not getting enough back support, putting more foam on top of it is only going to make it worse since you will now be hammocking into even more foam.

The best thing to do is to deconstruct your mattress. See Jimsocal's thread with photo links onr how to do this. Once you have removed the top layer of foam you may find that the layers underneath are still in good condition. Just add a topper over that if needed.

If you are reluctant to do that and are still tempted to try the 3" latex Flobeds core. (Consider how high that's going to make your existing mattress.) There are a few things you can do to try firming up the hip area of the mattress underneath. Try placing a yoga mat under the latex (or any other topper). I currently have some remnant carpeting under my 1" memory foam topper and a flat feather pillow, along with a layer of 1/2" firm HR foam over the pillow. But I don't recommend this approach for most people. They would probably find it too hard.

And speaking of HR foam, you can use 1/2" HR foam to bolster an area that needs firming up. You can get it at most foam stores or at Joanne's Fabrics. Since you are building up a specific area of the mattress and not the entire surface, this works best under a topper where the effect is more graduated, but you can also tuck it under a mattress pad.

My guess is that somewhere along the line mattress manufacturers figured out that if they padded a mattress with a lot of cheap PU foam they could sell you a new one every three or four years instead of every twenty-five years.

So many of us have noticed that the 25-year-old mattresses we replaced turned out to be so much more comfortable than the one we replaced it with besides.