Novaform Comfortluxe Review/thoughts and a question
Dec 6, 2007 7:58 PM
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I got the Cal king Novaform comfortluxe mattress from Costco

FYI I am 6'5 215lbs and the mattress is setup on the floor.  Initially the mattress was very very hard.  I found I had to wait 72 hours for it to really decompress. Then, to soften it I walk/hoped(!) all over it many times probably a total of 20 minutes and this helped it soften up.

While I find the bed initially very comfortable I have a problem with it.  When I warm up the comfort layer,I think I sink through that layer and my hips sit on the support layer which is not comfortable and is in fact hard.  this is exactly what happened to me with my cheaperpediic I built!

It has only been 1 week so I will give it a couple more days. Otherwise, is memory foam simply not something us larger humans can use? Is Latex from Sleepez what I need to do? 
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Re: Novaform Comfortluxe Review/thoughts and a question
Reply #1 Dec 7, 2007 8:25 AM
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It sounds like you should stay away from heat sensitive foams.  Latex is not heat sensitive, neither is polyurethane.

Good luck.

Re: Novaform Comfortluxe Review/thoughts and a question
Reply #2 Dec 7, 2007 9:46 AM
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It would be unfair to judge memory foam by what you find at Costco. However, you are 0-for-2, so I wouldn't blame you for trying something different.
Re: Novaform Comfortluxe Review/thoughts and a question
Reply #3 Dec 7, 2007 6:47 PM
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And this one is 5" thick of memory foam and 7" of support layer!  geesh, i am beginning to feel fat or something :)
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Reply #4 Dec 7, 2007 8:38 PM
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I have had the same experience with memory foam.  Latex has been much better.

Costco has a wonderful return policy.

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Reply #5 Dec 7, 2007 11:33 PM
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ericgl wrote:
I have had the same experience with memory foam.  Latex has been much better.

Costco has a wonderful return policy.


That's why i decided to try this bed from Costco, because I knew they would take it back for a COMPLETE refund.

So what did you end up doing for a latex bed?
Re: Novaform Comfortluxe Review/thoughts and a question
Reply #7 Dec 8, 2007 7:47 AM
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I purchased my latex layers from FoamByMail and I use their Lux PU foam as the core.  I got a cheap velour cover from ebay which works fine for me.

FBM has only 2 ILDs of latex; soft and medium.  I bought 3" of each.  As I mentioned in another thread, I think I may have prefered 4" of mediun and 2" of soft.  And I might throw in 2" of FBM 36ILD HQ foam for good measure.

Re: Novaform Comfortluxe Review/thoughts and a question
Reply #8 Dec 8, 2007 8:33 AM
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I noticed you guys used lots of different types of foams. Wow. Why didn't you just build a complete latex bed?
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Reply #9 Dec 8, 2007 12:25 PM
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Several people have tried for a perfect all-latex mattress, but only a few have achieved it. If you look at old threads here, you'll see that many people have trouble getting the support needed with latex. It's just too rubbery.
Re: Novaform Comfortluxe Review/thoughts and a question
Reply #10 Dec 8, 2007 12:26 PM
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novahelp wrote:
I noticed you guys used lots of different types of foams. Wow. Why didn't you just build a complete latex bed?

Cost. The price for a latex core starts around $900.
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Reply #11 Dec 8, 2007 2:11 PM
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donw wrote:
Several people have tried for a perfect all-latex mattress, but only a few have achieved it. If you look at old threads here, you'll see that many people have trouble getting the support needed with latex. It's just too rubbery.

Then how does SleepEZ do it with their beds?
Re: Novaform Comfortluxe Review/thoughts and a question
Reply #12 Dec 9, 2007 12:28 PM
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novahelp, I am 6'6" and 240. My core is 5.6" of ILD 40 (not the most firm available) Latex International Talatech (blend), and I am well satisfied with the support I get from it. In fact, my problem has been softening things up enough on top.

I haven't personally tried using a urethane core, but I believe it should be a less expensive way of achieving a very similar feel to all latex.
Re: Novaform Comfortluxe Review/thoughts and a question
Reply #13 Dec 9, 2007 12:33 PM
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Thanks for the input. So the latex really is a better foam, and likely to be an easier way to just get a comfortable bed.

It's really driving me nuts all this :) . The worst is that this bed is actually VERY comfortable ... INITIALLY!
It's just that after a couple of hours my shoulder and hip become pressure points sitting on the support layer since the memory foam has been heated up and I sink through it.

Is this just the result of cheap memory foam?  Or do the tempurpedics and all memory foam beds do this as well and just us larger people have this sinking through problem?
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Reply #14 Dec 9, 2007 12:59 PM
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Memory foam can definitely feel like perfectly contoured concrete, but this strikes me as just poor design. There must be a different material under the memory foam which provides something in between a cast and a concrete slab of support. And yes, it probably IS cheap memory foam. Quality memory foam is expensive.
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Reply #15 Dec 9, 2007 1:39 PM
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That's the design of the bed in the above photo.  Another web site with reviews has a post from the manufacturer with some ILD values. I am construing from them this is the likely construction of the Comfortluxe as the other bed with specific numbers used mostly the same foam layers.  Therefore, Comfortluxe is likely:

1.5" Coolwave 4lb foam of 12-14ILD
1.5" and 2" layers are likely 12-15ILD
7"  is 2lb foam with ILD 40

Would this construction explain why someone my size loves the bed at first, but has those pressure spots later on?  I am a side sleeper..

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Re: Novaform Comfortluxe Review/thoughts and a question
Reply #16 Dec 11, 2007 5:29 PM
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Thoughts? Is it the foam or me that is causing this difficulty?
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Reply #17 Dec 11, 2007 7:25 PM
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novahelp wrote:
Thoughts? Is it the foam or me that is causing this difficulty?



From my experence, and switching from memory foam to latex, it is the foam.

After all, you are stuck with your body, your bed should fit your needs.

Re: Novaform Comfortluxe Review/thoughts and a question
Reply #18 Dec 11, 2007 9:33 PM
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I spoke to Jeremy from SleepEZ. He said the problem is that the comfort layer ILD is WAAAY too soft. he said it was typical of most manufacturers to put a comfort layer that is super soft so in the showroom people thing it is great.

he said their soft layer is 24 ILD. They had a super soft layer, but they discontinued it since everyone was returning it.

He recommended a Soft-Med-Xfirm combo for me in their 3 layer unit.
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Reply #19 Dec 13, 2007 7:15 PM
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Well, called again. Shawn said he would suggest I get the Medium - Firm - X-Firm.  Guess jeremy was wrong? :)
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Reply #20 Dec 13, 2007 7:41 PM
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Does the IFD of memory foam decrease with increasing temperature?  If so, at what temperature do they measure IFD?

Nova, what are you using for a foundation?

Re: Novaform Comfortluxe Review/thoughts and a question
Reply #21 Dec 13, 2007 11:14 PM
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Shawn of sleepez said the problem for me isn't  the ILD of the foam, its that because of my weight i likely generate (and I do) a lot more heat than most people. combine this with my weight, I will sink through memory foam and end up on the support layer.

I have the ComfortLuxe on the floor right now.
Re: Novaform Comfortluxe Review/thoughts and a question
Reply #22 Dec 14, 2007 5:23 PM
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I would be somewhat concerned that 9 inches of latex would not be enough for you to get isolate you from feeling the floor.  Of course, the firmer the less you will interact with the floor.

You might consider some high quality PU foam as a base if you go with SleepEZ.

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Reply #23 Dec 14, 2007 6:09 PM
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Well, shawn said he has friends who are 200+ on the 10000 (9") without a problem. 

From what I read, Shawn knows his stuff.

My only concern, Shawn said one thing and Jeremy gave me other advice. However, to be honest, Jeremy didn't really seem to know what he was talking about ... Shawn did.
Re: Novaform Comfortluxe Review/thoughts and a question
Reply #24 Dec 14, 2007 7:51 PM
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If the bottom 6" is of an appropriate ILD to provide adequate support, 9" will be enough.

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