Just bought a new Flobeds
Sep 21, 2009 3:31 PM
Joined: Aug 17, 2009
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I just purchased a new FloBeds. It is the 100% natural Talalay 4 layer mattresses. The top most layer being a soft egg crate 2" piece of Talalay.  

I purchased the following configuration. On the left side of the bed I have a median top layer, firm middle layer, and extra firm bottom layer. On the right side the top layer is firm, the second layer is extra firm, and the bottom layer is extra firm.

I felt that this should give me an opportunity to switch the layers around and come up with the configuration that will work the best for my 6' 2"  210 pound frame. It has been quite a wrestling match, reading all the different descriptions that various people like, when it comes to firmness layers. You also run into this with some of the websites. No two people seem to consider this the same way. So I'm just going to have to experiment.

This is one of the main reasons that I went with FloBeds. They have the most liberal exchange policy coupled with a generous return policy. They definitely get more money than some of the other sites. But when you're purchasing something this expensive from the Internet, and cannot lay on it, feel it, look at it, and even smell it, it's good to have a situation where you can make corrections at a nominal expense. Given the fact that FloBeds has an excellent reputation with the BBB, and Dave and Dewey Turner are excellent people to do business with, it just seemed to make good sense to me to consider the extra cost as an insurance policy.

One last point I would like to make. I just realize that I have been misspelling FloBeds name. I had been misspelling it "FlowBeds." Wrong!    It is spelled FloBeds.com. I hope I have not misdirected anyone.

It will probably take about a week to get this bed in my home, set up, and slept on. When I have had an opportunity to do this I will be sure to post back and let you know what my experiences are, as I know how confusing this kind of a purchase can be.

This message was modified Sep 22, 2009 by eagle2
Re: Just bought a new Flobeds
Reply #160 Feb 16, 2010 4:36 PM
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Background (sorry, if you've already read it skip it):
 
60 yr old F,  5' 7", 128 lbs, side sleeper -- Fibromyalgia. Extreme pressure points in hips, (tingling, burning, numbness, pain). Currently sleeping on aTP Cloud Supreme... not really sure it's right for me. Still have 6 weeks before deciding to either exchange it for TP Rhapsody or get refund and start over. OR new option - try FloBeds and compare!

I had tried an Englander Natures Finest Latex and was in so much pain on it, I had quit the idea of latex altogether because of it (I never was able to find the exact content of that particular bed). I admit, at the time I made that decision, I was totally ignorant about different ILD's, thicknesses, customizing layers, coverings, latex actually helping with pressure points, etc.

That said, after reading all the reviews and threads here (you guys really are good!), checking FloBed's BBB rating and others, and comparing prices and refund policies with Sleepez, I've decided to call FloBeds. (Also, my son said no problem, he'll come and help with any heavy lifting. YAY!)

My checklist of disclosures/ questions include the usual:
Age, health etc. from above
Overall height of mattress
Exchange, return policy
Warranty and what voids it
Expected break in period if any
Pricing for exchanges or refund return
Type of mattress protector I can put on it - (the thing I hate about TP, choice of sleeping with only a bottom sheet, or on a thin piece of plastic backed noise) ....

... and then my mind went on overload and totally left me, (and it's way too little to be out on it's own!)  I can just picture myself on the phone going, " Hello, ah, ah, ah".

So I just finished reading this very extensive and very informative thread stated by eagle2 (kudos eagle!). Amazing info here which has answered a lot of my questions, but left me with "information overload". I will have to reread it again before I make the call and ask for "Dave".

A few things I am especially interested in more information about:
 vZone - is it complicated?
Natural vs Blended but only in regard on if you prefer a softer mattress, or is this even worthy of consideration?
Is the FloBed cover tight? With the nerves in my hips even one wrinkle under me will wake me with a burning, searing pain.

Hope you all had a wonderful weekend!
Natalie
This message was modified Feb 16, 2010 by Natalia
Re: Just bought a new Flobeds
Reply #161 Feb 16, 2010 5:21 PM
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Dear Natalie: Since you say you are 60 years old I would ask for Dave as he is closer to your age. Dewey, his son, is of course a much younger man.

Us older folks ( I am 72) need all the empathy we can get.

Dave is quite helpful and will be able to answer almost all of your questions I feel quite sure. Their cover is a very good one and does not have any wrinkles in it. But you may want your own choice of topper. I find the closer I can get to the latex the better I like it. However you do need something between you and the latex to allow for breathability, for lack of a better term.

I doubt quite seriously a bed is going to answer all of your problems. But I feel that my experience with my FloBeds has brought me to as good a solution as I am likely to find. The most important thing, as I have emphasized, again and again, is to have someone like FloBeds working for you to make sure you achieve as good a configuration as is possible to aquire. These people seem willing to go to any lengths to have a satisfied customer. To be able to talk to the individual who owns the company without any machines taking your messages and promising to call back, etc. etc. etc., in and of itself is a great relief. But to have the people who own the company, who understand these kinds of problems and a desire to help is incalculable.

I personally prefer the hundred percent natural latex. But the blended might work just as well for you, and it is less expensive. "So you payes your money and takes your choice."

And don't worry about being all tongue-tied and lacking in knowledge. That's where Dave can come in. Possibly you would like the VZone I know that's what Dave sleeps on, and many here have claimed a preference for it. I just did not want to have that many choices to try and resolve. I bought the four layer 100% natural latex mattress and exchanged four different layers to get to the most comfortable configuration for me. You will just have to do your own experimenting. But with FloBeds help you should be able to arrive at a satisfactory conclusion.

Good luck, and keep us posted on your progress.

PS: To read all of this thread you are going to have to go to the bottom of it and hit the "ALL" button to be able to see all of it!
This message was modified Feb 16, 2010 by eagle2
Re: Just bought a new Flobeds
Reply #162 Feb 16, 2010 11:41 PM
Joined: Dec 29, 2009
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Natalia,

As always, I completely agree with eagle2. Call Dave...he will help you.  You CANNOT beat FloBeds' warranty/exchange or return policy.  As eagle2 has said time and time again...they are the most lenient out there.   I do have the VZone because I have all sorts of pressure point issues and really like it.  I find it pretty easy to get the feel closer to what you need/want by being able to move these pieces around.  Still tweaking though.   I have more info posted about it in the "Please help me figure out which Flobeds to Buy thread..."  As an FYI, the cover fits really nicely and is luxurious in my opinion...with the issues you have with your nerves, you might not want to put a mattress cover on it as others have tried so there are no issues of fabric wrinkling.

Good luck. TJ

Re: Just bought a new Flobeds
Reply #163 Feb 17, 2010 5:27 PM
Joined: Jan 18, 2010
Points: 143
Well, I did it! My new bed should be here no later than Monday. I'm excited and nervous at the same time. Dewey was very nice and helpful and thanks to you all I had a list of questions, but he really answered most of them before I could ask. Which was great because I don't do phone very well, and I did do the "ah... ah... ah.." .  I went with all his recommendations except for the vZone, which we decided I could upgrade to later if needed. So my new bed is:

Natural Deluxe - Natural Talalay Latex Green Mattress
Organic Cotton & Wool Cover
Natural Talalay Latex Convolute Comfort Pad
Both sides:
Natural Talalay Latex Core-Soft
Natural Talalay Latex Core-Medium
Natural Talalay Latex Core-Firm

I told him about how informed and extremely helpful you've all been, (though I think most of you spoke with Dave who was unavailable) Dewey was glad to hear about how impressed I was about this great forum.

These large purchases always scare me, but he assured me if for any reason I didn't love the bed, I would only be out the shipping cost of sending it back, which is very reasonable. Eagle, you are so right about how reassuring it is to deal with the owners!

I do realize no bed is going to cure my fibromyalgia and all the issues it creates, but I am hoping this bed will provide some relief and comfort... without all the rules the TP demands you follow.

So, I'll have both the TP Cloud and Flobed here with over a month before the TP must go back.
Thank you all again so much!
Natalie
This message was modified Feb 17, 2010 by Natalia
Re: Just bought a new Flobeds
Reply #164 Feb 17, 2010 5:37 PM
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Natalie: You most assuredly are welcome. I felt quite confident that once you had a chance to talk to the folks at FloBeds you would find all the assurance that you needed to make an informed decision. Welcome aboard!

Keep us informed how it goes for you. You may have a question or two that someone here may be able to answer for you.
Re: Just bought a new Flobeds
Reply #165 Feb 17, 2010 7:40 PM
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Natalie,  I hope the bed works out for you!  When you receive it, please start a new thread and share your experiences with you new latex mattress.
Re: Just bought a new Flobeds
Reply #166 Feb 17, 2010 7:52 PM
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Points: 542
KimberlyH wrote:
Natalie,  I hope the bed works out for you!  When you receive it, please start a new thread and share your experiences with you new latex mattress.

I agree with KimberlyH, Natalie. By starting your own thread you can have all your posts about your new bed in one place. While I welcome any and all of you posts here, this thread is getting quite long and it is better to have one where you can keep all the information regarding your new purchase in one place.

Just go to the bottom of the main page of this forum and on the very right lower corner is the place marked "Post New Topic" click on that. In the Subject line put what ever you want, such as "Natalie's New Flowbed", or what ever pleases you. Then tell us your story, and "Away you go!"

I appreciate all of your input!
This message was modified Feb 17, 2010 by eagle2
Re: Just bought a new Flobeds
Reply #167 Feb 21, 2010 3:50 PM
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I thought it might be good to post a follow-up to my latest latex configuration change on my FloBeds.

As I have reported elsewhere, due to installing some new electronic equipment for my stereo I had to do a lot of squatting behind my television cabinet. I should have had a stool of the proper height is set on, but unfortunately in the convoluted experience of checking and rechecking the equipment I wound up just squatting very low to get to this piece of equipment. I had developed a sore back some weeks prior trying to get back in some kind of reasonable shape once again. This pain had migrated to the lower part of my back and into the hip area and this pain was further aggravated by my squatting. It wasn't a real severe pain but it was annoying and troublesome.

So I tried some stretching exercises and also decided to firm up one side of my bed back to its original configuration of F/XF/XF. I was able to do this because Dave Turner had been so kind as to let me keep a piece of medium latex that had been damaged in the original shipment. He told me to just hold onto it until I had satisfied myself with the proper configuration of my bed.

So now I'm pretty much back to what I had for quite some time, that is, the right side of my bed is now F/F/XF and left side of my bed, the one I just changed, is F/XF/XF. That coupled with my very thin old wore out topper seems to make the best overall sleeping surface for me.

The thing that I want to emphasize, and it has been discussed on this board time and time again, is how little some changes that we make to our mattresses can change the sleeping characteristics of our beds. the other thing that has been reported by many over a long period of time now, is how most of us start out with a softer mattress and gradually gravitate towards a firmer mattress. This is that individual thing that everyone just has to work out for themselves.

In any event, I'm back to my original sleep experience, "I look forward to going to bed, and when it's time to get up in the morning I am reluctant to do so because I am so comfortable."
This message was modified Feb 21, 2010 by eagle2
Re: Just bought a new Flobeds
Reply #168 Feb 21, 2010 3:55 PM
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Get yourself plenty of footstools, before your tear your knee meniscus if you haven't already.  I can't squat anymore, I am only 51 years young.  I did not get the surgery I was told I have to get.  I did physical therapy.  Those people who did do the surgery, they can't squat either I have noticed!

I need to get some firm latex.  I wish I could remember what XF and F is on Flobeds, but I can't!  It iis different for other companies.  Drives me crazy.  Did your latex have stickers on ILD testing?
This message was modified Feb 21, 2010 by Leo3
Re: Just bought a new Flobeds
Reply #169 Feb 21, 2010 4:37 PM
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Points: 542
Leo3 wrote:
Get yourself plenty of footstools, before your tear your knee meniscus if you haven't already.  I can't squat anymore, I am only 51 years young.  I did not get the surgery I was told I have to get.  I did physical therapy.  Those people who did do the surgery, they can't squat either I have noticed!

I need to get some firm latex.  I wish I could remember what XF and F is on Flobeds, but I can't!  It iis different for other companies.  Drives me crazy.  Did your latex have stickers on ILD testing?

Yes Leo I have right knee problems also, had to quit tennis because of it. So I understand.

Go here for flobeds chart on ILD ratings

http://www.flobeds.com/mattspec.htm

Some of the pieces did have the original LI labels, but not all. It depends how the piece is cut. They come in as 6" pieces and Flobeds slices then to 3" pieces.

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