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Thanks Budgy for that info.  Are some mattress companies more free with the boric acid than others?  The formaldehyde in the mattress top is that labeled on the tag?  Do all manufacturers do this to your knowledge?

I do not want formaldehyde on my mattress.  You are saying they have done this before the law required them to for fire retardant reasons?

What can consumers do to get more information on this?   I tried to read manufacturers websites, but you know they are not real forthcoming with information even on what is in those mattresses.  Particularly even when they put latex in them, they don't even tell you what ILD, or firm, or soft.

Do customers you have ask about this, or do they just blindly buy and not care?  I for one never wanted this law passed.  I don't smoke, and I have a fire alarm system with a phone I...

If Natalia bought the Simmons and if the foam wears out (okay it will wear out) and she does mattress surgery where is the fire retardants in the new beds nowadays?  That is a question I wondered if some of them use boric acid powder or some kind of chemical and you don't know it when it open it yikes.

Budgy can you address (please) which beds have what "stuff" in it for fire retardants requirements.  I would want to know it only have wool in it before I did mattress surgery....

I tried this bed when I was mattress shopping and found it unbelievably comfortable - actually, I think I tried 1 model up - an NXG 450 or something like that.

Nevertheless, I didn't buy it because of what Budgy just said - if there is PU foam in there, it will break down, and within a matter of a few months or years. 

However, I have to say that it was one of the most pleasurable mattresses I've tried.  If I had confidence it would last, I would have bought it....

wool in large amounts not being quilted properly = lumps (not to mention still too costly for most big brands to implement).

no, unfortunately these things will not be listed on the law label tag in this kind of detail.  only what the upholstery is made of, and usually fabric content as well.

As for has this been done even before the laws got tighter?  I think its been done in limited amounts for quite some time, there havebeen fire safety laws for mattresses for quite some time, they are just now much tougher to pass without resorting to chemical flame retardants to keep the cost reasonable.  Realistically the only way you can know for sure that you would not have any chemical flame retardants is to buy something certified organic, or atleast all natural with wool being used as a fire barrier.  Or even better than that is to buy...

realistically all mattress coverings and sometimes fibre layers underneath the covers are treated with something.  Boric acid is typically only used in cotton batting.  Polyester outer mattress coverings are treated with formaldehyde.  Formaldehyde is very soluble in water and they basically just spray the covers down with it.  If you want a mattress that is basically guaranteed not to have chemical flame retardants you want it certified by Eco Institut (the whole mattress, not just the latex, or whatever filling materials are used).  They have a strict tolerance of less than 20mg of formaldehyde per cubic metre of batting material, if formaldehyde was required to make the mattress pass the fire safety test it would likely spike to a level easily 100 times over this amount. 

Another interesting thing about wool being used as a chemical fire retardant.  I found a manufacturers website claiming wool doesn't allow a bed to...

Natalia wrote:
Quoted for flattery :)  Thank you...

You can always add a topper, but if the foam underneath the NXG material breaks down (there is still standard PU foam used underneath the NXG layer) then the topper will only mask the issue and will probably not remove body indentations. ...

KimberlyH wrote:
KimberlyH,

I agree totally! This bed, especially in the 400 line, feels like heaven! But if I trade in my TP Cloud Supreme, I can only do it once so I'm researching this Simmons Nxg and the TP Rhapsody, along with a few distant others.

I feel a kinship to you as we both suffer from the tingling,...

budgy wrote:
budgy, you are a fount of knowledge! I only wish you could be cloned and placed in each of the mattress stores in my area . I'm grateful for all your replies on this forum.
Natalie...

Would love to hear opinions about the Simmons NxG 250 firm? Would I be able to add a topper, (latex or foam) to this type of bed if the NxG foam where to break down prematurely OR just to change the feel if I didn't like it?

Your replies are very much appreciated :-)
Natalie

PS. I have really tried to research this bed. Have read through the older posts (not very many on this bed) here, almost all good reviews at Macy's and US Mattress, one bad at Viewpoints, none at epinions, so please don't think I'm not also doing my own research. Of course none of the reviews say if you can add a topper later, so I'm posting it here.


Specs from US Mattress:
Comfort

• Luxury Firm
• Comfort Scale 4

Quilt - Top of Mattress

• 1.25 oz. Fire Retardant fiber