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Re: Two more days left to exchange my Simmons Mattress (didn't like it) - jimsocal
Mar 4, 2010 9:55 PM
woofman81 wrote:
Yes, it is the luxury "firm" model with no pillowtop

I went to Stearn and Foster's website to double check.
I think you made a good decision. I'm not sure but I think the S&F springs are a little better than the Sealy springs, so if you ever need to do mattress surgery you'll be in good shape....
Re: Two more days left to exchange my Simmons Mattress (didn't like it) - sandman
Mar 5, 2010 3:06 PM
woofman81 wrote:
Correct Sandman, the estate has the dark brown detailing. I got the luxury line which is a lighter brown/tan detail.

So I did a interesting test today since I noticed now that different salesmen can give better pricing. I went into ANOTHER sleep America store (I'm not crazy I swear haha) and acted like I was a regular price and got a quote for the mattress I agreed to yesteday (the Stearns and Foster luxury firm) and sure enough, the guy quoted me 1061.00 compared to 1169.00 from the guy yesterday.

The other catch was I hadn't layed on a Stearns and Foster estate firm bed yet (a step up from my luxury model). The guy quoted me 1331.00 for a firm estate Stearns and foster. I had no idea I could get it that cheap.

I still went with the luxury firm but I'm almost wondering if I...
Re: Two more days left to exchange my Simmons Mattress (didn't like it) - sandman
Mar 5, 2010 12:47 PM
Slides wrote:
Does anyone know what the S&F Estate is called at Sleepys? :-(


Usually the estate has dark brown detailing.   You can look at a picture on their website.  It usually says it on the mattress, but you can ask as well.

I don't know of any real reviews of the estate over a long period of time.  So, their still is possibly an issue of the foam quality and how long it will last.  Some of the older S&F models had sagging and foam issues like all of the other S brands....

Re: Two more days left to exchange my Simmons Mattress (didn't like it) - Slides
Mar 5, 2010 12:02 PM
Does anyone know what the S&F Estate is called at Sleepys? :-(...
Re: Two more days left to exchange my Simmons Mattress (didn't like it) - woofman81
Mar 5, 2010 5:31 PM
sandman wrote:
The estate I liked was the luxury firm no pillowtop.  Is that the one you tried?   If you want really firm, they have an Ultra firm estate that felt rock solid.  Too firm me to sleep on.  The luxury firm (one step softer than the ultra firm) estate felt firm and supportive, yet probably sleepable without a top.  Who knows if in 6 months it would be sagging.

I believe the price of a queen estate was around $1275 on sale at Macy's.  Right now it looks like they increased the price a bit to around $1500

The estate has a different coil system.  It is coil in a coil.  The salesman told me that the estate was much better, but he may have been blowing smoke.  I had trouble getting info. on exactly what was in the S&F, so that made me a bit nervous.

In the end I...

Re: Two more days left to exchange my Simmons Mattress (didn't like it) - woofman81
Mar 5, 2010 2:49 PM
sandman wrote:
Usually the estate has dark brown detailing.   You can look at a picture on their website.  It usually says it on the mattress, but you can ask as well.

I don't know of any real reviews of the estate over a long period of time.  So, their still is possibly an issue of the foam quality and how long it will last.  Some of the older S&F models had sagging and foam issues like all of the other S brands.


Correct Sandman, the estate has the dark brown detailing. I got the luxury line which is a lighter brown/tan detail.

So I did a interesting test today since I noticed now that different salesmen can give better pricing. I went into ANOTHER sleep America store (I'm not crazy I swear haha) and acted like I was a regular price and got a quote for the mattress I agreed to...
Re: Two more days left to exchange my Simmons Mattress (didn't like it) - woofman81
Mar 4, 2010 10:14 PM
jimsocal wrote:
I think you made a good decision. I'm not sure but I think the S&F springs are a little better than the Sealy springs, so if you ever need to do mattress surgery you'll be in good shape.

Hearing that from you alone will help me sleep better tonight lol :)

I'm crossing my fingers on this one. Hope it suits me much better than the Simmons did....
Re: Two more days left to exchange my Simmons Mattress (didn't like it) - woofman81
Mar 4, 2010 9:29 PM
Yes, it is the luxury "firm" model with no pillowtop

I went to Stearn and Foster's website to double check....
Re: Two more days left to exchange my Simmons Mattress (didn't like it) - woofman81
Mar 4, 2010 7:40 PM
sandman wrote:
Probably my favorite S brand that I tried was a luxury firm S&F estate (non-pillowtop).   The estate seemed a bit better than the regular S&F, but that was okay too.

Not sure how long it will last, but probably as good of a choice as any of the others.  Funny how much the price dropped when you complained about it...


Yeah I'm kinda pissed the lady at the original Sleep America never even showed me that S&F mattress. She obviously wasn't willing to go down on the price as much as this other guy at the other store.

The Simmons latex mattress was nice as well but it's dunlop latex which I read wasn't as good as the Talalay?

The lady wouldn't even go below 2 grand for that Simmons latex while this other would do 1593. Shows you just how bad these salesmen can play with pricing
Re: Your Favorite Latex Pillow? - MissMac
Mar 5, 2010 12:04 PM
Thanks, budgy, for your opinion.  I would probably have said that too if I hadn't tried those great pillows I mentined in my original post.  They were so comfortable!  I bought a Simmons brand latex 2 years ago but it is too soft and bouncy.  The ones on Overstock got some excellent reviews.  Anyone else tried them?...

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