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Re: Soliciting feedback on Vi-Spring and Hypnos - DianeK
Sep 15, 2010 1:38 PM
sandman, is there a Carpe Diem dealership in your area?  They basically have a spring system very similar to the Hastens (both Swedish companies) but use a Talalay latex topper instead of the horsehair/cotton. I liked them better than the Hastens but to import one into Canada was just out of the question for my budget.

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Re: Soliciting feedback on Vi-Spring and Hypnos - sandman
Sep 15, 2010 2:26 PM
DianeK wrote:

sandman, is there a Carpe Diem dealership in your area?  They basically have a spring system very similar to the Hastens (both Swedish companies) but use a Talalay latex topper instead of the horsehair/cotton. I liked them better than the Hastens but to import one into Canada was just out of the question for my budget.

Yes, they are nearby.  How is their pricing compared to Hastens?

 

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Re: Soliciting feedback on Vi-Spring and Hypnos - sandman
Sep 15, 2010 1:16 PM
Thanks Budgy.  At some point down the road I might be upgrading to a larger mattress, and move what I am currently using to a spare bedroom.  I am a side sleeper and like it on the medium to soft side.  From what I have tried,  I think I prefer the spring+latex+something else soft  combo to all latex.   I am also liking the concept of having a good base coil / box spring system, with a seperate/customizable comfort layer. 

Vi-spring is not anywhere close to where I live, and does not have a seperate top layer (from I know).  Might be too expensive as well.  Hastens is at least nearby, and the very top layer might have some flexibility.  A lot of built in fibre though and probably the most expensive option (although I don't know what a Vi-spring costs).   Still, I will probably at least try a Hastens at some point to see...

Re: Soliciting feedback on Vi-Spring and Hypnos - sandman
Sep 15, 2010 11:09 AM
Thanks, I thought it was just a solid wood foundation.  I didn't realize it had some give to it. 

I only see the latex mattress on the Green Sleep website, so they are a bit confusing. 

Looks like Vi-spring is only in Chicago at this point. 

Forgetting the comfort layers for a moment, it sounds like you are saying that the Green Sleep coil system and foundation might provide a more comforming and comfortable base level than the Royal-Pedic? I assume both would last a long time....

Re: Soliciting feedback on Vi-Spring and Hypnos - sandman
Sep 15, 2010 9:23 AM
Thanks.  The Green Sleep top would probably be too firm for my taste.  I would take better sleep over more organic if it came down to to it.

The Green Sleep I see comes with a foundation and not a box spring?  Is that true of all of their coil mattresses?  That seems like it might be a disadvantage?

Are the Green Sleep coils themselves reasonably body conforming or are they pretty stiff?

How would you compare the spring system on the Vi-spring vs. Royal-Pedic?...

Re: Soliciting feedback on Vi-Spring and Hypnos - sandman
Sep 15, 2010 7:17 AM
"Realistically the only part of the Green Sleep pocket coil beds that really takes any kind of initial body indentation is the top most sheeps wool layer"

 Budgy, I am not totally sure what you mean by this.  Are you talking about permanent body indentations?

I think the idea of the replacable top level is an interesting one for the Green Sleep pocketed coil mattress.  Can you get the top level in different levels of firmness?

Royal-Pedic also has a top comfort level that can be added/replaced on their mattresses.  Of course, one could always make one as well by putting latex / wool into something like the St. Geneve wool featherbed protector.

Speaking of the heavy metals / pesticides in the cotton.  Does that come out when washed?  Otherwise, you have to worry about clothes, sheets, blankets, pillows, etc. and all of furniture you come into...

Re: Soliciting feedback on Vi-Spring and Hypnos - budgy
Sep 15, 2010 11:41 AM
GreenSleep's website is really out of date right now.  The coil beds are new and have yet to be added, they are planning on re-launching everything pretty soon.  Yes excluding some differences in upholstery you would be right.  As far as durability its hard to say...the Royal Pedics all use more upholstery in the cores of their mattresses (even the ones with removable tops)....I personally am always of the approach that the less polyurethane and the less fibre used, the better a mattress will hold its shape.  But as I have been quick to admit rubber itself has some limitations....all materials truly do. 

My recommendations for a mattress with no consideration given to cost and unlimited budget assumed:

If someone likes anything firm to medium soft, rubber and or rubber with a quality spring core is simply the most practical. Holds its shape better, still very...

Re: Soliciting feedback on Vi-Spring and Hypnos - budgy
Sep 15, 2010 10:07 AM
Green Sleep S200 Base

 

It's definitely a functional base system, dowels and slats placed on natural rubber (that is encased in organic cotton).  I am just hesitant to call it a boxspring as there is no traditional coil spring, but it does contribute to the same bottemless feeling that a proper coil mattress should have. 

As far as the coil system goes I would say its reasonably conforming, more so than any offset or bonnell coil.  The Bonnell coil in the Green Sleep beds would be more comparable to the Offset used in a Royal Pedic.  Yet because of the finer gauge steel and higher spring count used in a Vi-Spring or Hastens bed they will be more able to conform to body shape...I think particularly the Vi-Spring coils is pretty amazing how...

Re: Soliciting feedback on Vi-Spring and Hypnos - budgy
Sep 15, 2010 8:29 AM
Technically some of these things come out during manufacturing, but you will never be completely rid of it.  You know, really I don't worry about these small things too much myself.  To me its just a bonus if something is certified to not have those materials...my only point is that small amounts of these toxins are absorbed by us transdermally every day and it is far more harmful than inert sulfur ash trapped inside other materials whether it be rubber or steel springs, we can however argue over semantics about the fact that iron ferrite has large amounts of sulfur inside it naturally and rubber does not.  Sulfur, phosphorus, and other elements are found in pretty much everything. Lead and mercury are present in most leafy greens...one could go crazy worrying about every single detail. 

To be fair the Hastens beds also have removable pillowtops that can be...

Re: Soliciting feedback on Vi-Spring and Hypnos - budgy
Sep 14, 2010 7:01 PM
mkyy wrote:

budgy, what do you think about the new lien of Greensleep coil mattress? 


Compared to something like a Vi-Spring or Hastens there are pro's and con's.  Realistically the only part of the Green Sleep pocket coil beds that really takes any kind of initial body indentation is the top most sheeps wool layer.  Being that a Vi-Spring or Hastens is upholstered exclusively with animal and vegetable fibres...I could see them taking more of a body set...this may or may not bug people, I imagine for the amount of coin spent on them, it does bother a myriad of people.  Natural rubber does hold its shape well.  The good thing with the Green Sleep pocket coil beds is that after say 15~25 years you can simply replace the pillowtop with a new one, the spring core and base system should...

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