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Re: Latex Mattress, Latex Top on Innerspring Mattress, or Build Our Own? - sandman
Sep 20, 2010 7:05 AM
I would be careful about going with Sealy/Simmons/Serta (any "S" brand).  All of these tend to use cheap foam on top and the cavities you fear will form.  

100% latex does not tend to have those problems, so it will last much longer.  I would avoid things that call themselves latex, unless you are 100% sure you know what goes into them.  Some have 3" of latex and the rest is regular foam.

So, to a certain extent you get what you pay for.  If you buy a sleepez, foamsweetfoam, flobed, etc you are getting good quality 100% latex inside and it comes with a zippered cover (usually with wool in the top).  Plus you can change the layers and have each side different.  I would work with the seller on what layers to get.  S/M/F might be a good starting point for your wife.  Some people with back issues find that...

Re: Just bought a new mattress from SEARS and I hate it - tony
Sep 18, 2010 4:03 PM
DianeK wrote:

Just grit your teeth and go to war with Sears.  They are generally pretty good if you maintain your assertiveness.  There is no way you should be able to feel the springs in a new mattress.  Something is wrong.



if it is a cheap model you can feel the springs to some degree,  i have the cheapest simmons plush and i can feel them to some degree.

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Latex Mattress, Latex Top on Innerspring Mattress, or Build Our Own? - kyley
Sep 19, 2010 10:47 PM
Hi All, 

First post here!  I just discovered this forum and it's nice to see a group of knowledgable people helping each other out with something as difficult as mattress shopping!  We've been looking at all types of mattresses and found we don't like Tempurpedic, like the Sleep Doctor - Dr. Breus all latex bed (know anything about this bed - type of latex, will it get body impressions, etc.?), and like the Sealy / Simmons innerspring with latex topper beds.  But, I like the idea of an all-latex bed, yet they're pricey, I don't know what type / quality of latex is used in these and whether it will hold up, and I hear horror stories (user reviews) of the mattresses developing cavities / body impressions that lead to people sleeping in a valley...  I want to avoid that!   

Anyway, I'm intrigued with the comments here about things...

Sleep Success - requin
Oct 5, 2010 9:56 AM
You guys, I am so thrilled. Last night I took everything off the new mattress...wool topper and latex topper. Put on a cotton fitted sheet and bedded down.

I slept. I wasn't hot. I didn't sweat. I didn't have pressure points, or knobs (from the wool topper) digging into my legs. I didn't sink in too far, I didn't bounce around on top.  It was awesome.

I AM still getting used to my new Oxygen pillow..so still adjusting to that. I woke a lot during the night but more out of habit than anything..I was not uncomfortable, I wasn't waking due to hot spots...how awesome is that! I'd wake up and think, "wow, I'm not hot. I'm so comfortable.." and got too excited to go back to sleep, lol.

Thanks to gunman for the gentle reminder that new mattresses take time to break in....

Re: Body Impressions ... opinions from people who have been around for a long time? - gunman4440
Oct 12, 2010 9:38 PM
Phoenix,

In the old days we used belive that a certin amount of body impression was a good thing.  Remember - the big guys -Sealy, Simmons, & Serta all used Sisel pads and garneted cotton on top of a pretty good spring system.  Each major had their own spring system and touted it strongly.  Garneted cotton did take some body impression - especially if the customer didn't do a good job of turning and rotating their mattress.  The cotton fibers would tend to compress under the normal circular motions of the human body's motion while sleeping.  But as you stated, this was not considered a bad thing - we believed it was the upholstry learning the sleeper's body and becoming moer comfortable. 

The cotton could also create some problems of it's own.  Garneted cotton (what we called batting) was applied by weight - better matts getting...

Re: What to look for in a Foundation for a Latex Mattress? - gunman4440
Oct 4, 2010 12:03 PM
The "Big S's" - Sealy, Simmons, Serta, all recomend a hard - wood foundation.  They recomend a solid firm surface (a platform bedis great!) with no give to it.  Latex International and Sleep Comp Latex have always told me that a latex mattress should do all the work.

By the way - take a good hard look at what ever foundation only you buy.  The store you buy the foundation from won't be making much money - profit wise - so don't expect a lot of service from them.  Remember the real profit is in the mattress that you are buying some where else and come to them for their expert advice for proper support from a foundation you need for someone elses mattress!

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Re: Need pointed in the right direction - Phoenix
Oct 14, 2010 5:45 PM
Thanks a lot for the info. I had come to believe that bonnell coils were the cheapest so it's nice to know differently. Makes sense really.

And thanks especially for the info about the pocket coils. If I was going in the direction of springs it would almost certainly be pocket coils and for anyone going in that direction I think it would be really important to know how they were made since they can "go wrong" more easily than other types if they are not well designed and constructed.

From what I understand, the Simmons coils are untempered. Just to add to the information in this thread, what are your thoughts about untempered coils vs tempered coils.

Phoenix

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Re: Need pointed in the right direction - Phoenix
Oct 14, 2010 5:05 PM
That's too bad. IBC has an origins line which is their latex line so it would have been nice if you could try them. I guess you're back to holder. Have you talked to them on the phone? At least we know thay have all latex mattresses and latex top mattresses and I'm guessing they have decent prices.

Failing that, I would either

1. Widen your search a bit to neighboring states and then do most of the work on the phone before you take any trips.

or

2. Go to local mattress stores and lay on mattresses that are mostly latex (Sealy springfree if you can find them or embody, Serta pure response, or Simmons natural care  and natural care elite, or any other latex mattress that they carry that has mostly latex in the top). Do most of the work...

Re: Took wool topper off for an experiment - Phoenix
Oct 11, 2010 10:49 AM
The Simmons NXG 575 has 3/4" of latex in the quilting over 2" next generation memory foam over 3" 28 ILD talalay and I found it to be really really comfortable in my lay on mattress test. I didn't lay on it for a long time because I didn't want to get tempted too much in this direction. I think though that it (or some variant of the general layering) may be a perfect combination for some people. The 3/4 inch of quiltable latex would still allow enough heat to go through for the memory foam to conform but it would lead to less of a sinking in feeling similar to a wool pad leading to memory foam not sinking in as much. This is a good thing for many people as you would not be sleeping "in" the mattress as much. The quiltable latex also feels really nice (even...
Re: Help me with latex bed configuration please - Phoenix
Oct 10, 2010 2:13 PM
A few ideas that may help you (gathered from many people who have been around for a long time and validated in my own mattress testing) ...

 

First of all the difference in feel between Talalay and Dunlop.

Talalay is more "airy" and Dunlop is more "dense". Think of angel food cake vs sponge cake. He might feel it is more bouncy because with a firmer topper, the lower layers of the mattress will have a more gradually rounded curve pressing on them from his body and there may be more springs pushing back at him than if he was compressing the springs with a "sharper" curve. He may in other words be describing a "feel" that comes from the springs but is enhanced by the topper.

Each person will feel the difference differently (depending on weight, weight...

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