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Re: Need pointed in the right direction - budgy
Oct 14, 2010 6:25 PM
Phoenix wrote:

Thanks a lot for the info. I had come to believe that bonnell coils were the cheapest so it's nice to know differently. Makes sense really.

And thanks especially for the info about the pocket coils. If I was going in the direction of springs it would almost certainly be pocket coils and for anyone going in that direction I think it would be really important to know how they were made since they can "go wrong" more easily than other types if they are not well designed and constructed.

From what I understand, the Simmons coils are untempered. Just to add to the information in this thread, what are your thoughts about untempered coils vs tempered coils.

Phoenix


Technically speaking Simmons pocket coils are tempered...

Re: Too-firm mattress causing back pain - exchange for plush mattress or get toppers? - TC2334
Oct 28, 2010 9:54 AM
Many people on here seemed to be helped by about 2" of latex, from what I have read.

I haven't owned a Simmons.  My parents have one in their guest room.  It's firm or ultra firm with little foam, and I know that it softened up lots from when it was new.   My parents Simmons also sags in the middle now, even with extra supports under it.

I've read lots of complaints that the Simmons goes too soft within 2-3 months.   Maybe yours still hasn't broken in.  I've read lots of complaints that the Simmons goes "too soft" within 2-3 months, compared to how it was new.

I have an Imperial Bedding Orthopedic Ultra Firm model #49 Bonnell innerspring mattress and spring foundation set.  Now, that set is rock hard firm in full size, and it also has little padding.  It's more firm than...

Re: Firm mattress / low Foam suggestions - TC2334
Oct 18, 2010 4:45 AM
Here's the info for my older full size Imperial set that I love:

Imperial Bedding
Orthopedic Ultra Firm
Model 49 with cover A26, I believe.
It has the matching box spring, can't see the springs, but there are 6-7 slats and it's only a full size set.

I'm sure about the model number; I think I remember the cover number right.  Peach color woven jacquard, and I love that slick cool fabric and I hate all those sleazy knitter foamy synthetic covers that mattress-makers use today.

Model 49 is no longer on Imperial's web site, just to save you checking.  I am planning to call them and see if it's still made, or what today's equivalent model is, since I don't need to buy my queen set yet.  I bought that full size set in Nitro, WV, back...

Re: Memory foam over latex to soften things up? - Phoenix
Oct 23, 2010 11:44 PM
FWIW ... when I was laying on lots of beds, one of them was the Simmons NxG 575. It has 3/4" latex (quilted) over 2" NxG memory foam over 3" 28 ild Talalay latex over pocket coils. When I lay on it I have to say that it was probably the softest feeling mattress I lay on. It was like slowly sinking in to the mattress ... but not too far ... not like "poly softness" ... and not like just memory foam either. I didn't want to go in that direction (it was just curiosity) but my initial impression was very nice.

I don't know how thick your latex is or what it is on top of but it may be worth seeing if you can find one of these to test it out to get an idea of what latex/visco/latex can feel like. I'm not a...

Re: Ikea latex vs. Sealy Embody - Phoenix
Oct 18, 2010 6:47 AM
Jimsocal:

The Sealy Embody has 3" of what they call smart latex on top and that is on top of 7" probably HR base. There are only these 2 layers so there is no poly on top. They describe their smart latex as "continuous pour" so it is likely LI dunlop. Whether this is natural or blended is open to question but it is latex for sure. Even all synthetic latex would be less likely to develop body impressions than any polyfoam. There are some mattresses made by the "S" companies that use natural Dunlop and also Talalay (probably the blend) but IMO they are way overpriced and they mostly spoil them by adding polyfoam in the wrong places. The highest content of any of them is the Simmons natural care elite (Uses Talalay) which only has a 2" layer of poly and this is in the support...

Re: Need pointed in the right direction - Phoenix
Oct 17, 2010 10:48 AM
I have the stats for the Simmons natural care and even more importantly (they are almost all latex) the natural care elite. How each of these felt to you and the specific model that felt that way can lead to great information about combinations that work for you.

Using more expensive mattresses with higher quality materials in a mattress store can be an invaluable research tool in finding a much much less expensive mattress with similar qualities in a much lower budget.

They are well worth trying out along with the Serta pure response and the Sealy embody just for the information you can gain from knowing which of these fits you. This information could be very valuable in choosing a different (and much less expensive) bed with similar characteristics.

Phoenix

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Re: Need pointed in the right direction - perryw
Oct 17, 2010 10:15 AM
I went looking at The Room Place today, mainly because they are listed as retailer on Dormia.com's site (a latex mattress maker I found through Google).  What a huge disappointment, partially because they didn't have any Dormia products, but mainly because the guy helping me didn't know anything! 

He showed me three Simmons Natural Care mattresses.  I asked if they were entirely made of latex and he told me they were.    There was one of the little construction cutouts by the $1800 mattress, and at the bottom was a 2" lay of foam -- clearly NOT latex all the way through!  There was one for $1500 and one for $1800 and I asked him the differences between them a couple times.  All he could tell me was that the foam densities were different.  I asked him for numbers, said I was a computer guy and wanted to...

Can you recommend any good places in southern Houston? - trapp
Oct 24, 2010 10:39 PM
Hubby and I have a Simmons Beautyrest that is dead-dead-dead.  Usual story.  Wonderful for the first 6-8 months, started getting worse, and now not even 4 years later it's giving us both pretty bad backaches.  And we didn't have a cover, so it's stained, which means no warranty replacement.

Gr.

So, we're trying to find a new mattress that we could actually afford.  I'm leaning toward going for one of the basic firm innersprings.  We already have a 1.5" memory foam topper which has helped even out the bed a *little*, so we could put that on a mattress.

Unfortunately, our budget is pretty tight, so I'm really trying to find a good deal, if there is such a thing.

I do know that neither of us likes the tempurpedic at all.  I'm assuming (perhaps incorrectly) that we wouldn't like pure latex...

Need a new bed for spinal injury - how are the Gel top mattresses? - CapnBloodbeard
Oct 27, 2010 2:35 AM
My partner has a spinal injury, 2 torn discs in the lower back, so we're investing in a new mattress (currently sleeping on a cheapo rubbish one).

We've discovered it's hard to find some real information on mattresses, so here's a few things we want to clear up:

1)We've been told that individual pocket springs don't last as long as other spring systems (this may be why so many users of beds with pocket springs complain about significant permanent impressions being left in the bed) - thoughts?

2)We've narrowed the beds down to a Simmons Backcare Elite, with zoned pocket springs and a latex/foam top, and a sleepmaker Chiro Gel 200 with zoned springs (not pocket), and a gel top.  We've actually been able to get a free 2 week trial of the latter bed, but do people have any opinions on the Gel...

Too-firm mattress causing back pain - exchange for plush mattress or get toppers? - adamjs
Oct 28, 2010 6:43 AM
Hi,

First, thanks for this forum - it's a great resource.  I only wish I'd discovered it a few weeks ago!

At any rate, I recently purchased a new Simmons beautyrest firm, non-pillowtop mattress (yes, I'm aware of the concerns about Simmons, but apparently the firm mattresses use a heavier gauge wire in the coils less prone to sagging).  The mattress is uncomfortably firm, and I believe it is seriously exacerbating my previously-mild lower back pain.   I read in the very helpful newbie thread that one should always get the firmest mattress possible and then add toppers as needed, but my concern is that a too-firm mattress isn't allowing my hips and shoulders (I'm a side sleeper) to sink sufficiently to keep my spine aligned (and there appears to be some support [no pun intended!] for this hypothesis: http://www.webmd.com/back-pain/news/20031113/best-mattress-for-lower-back-pain). ...

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