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Re: Simmons Beautyrest World Class opinions/reviews - Sall
Nov 24, 2010 1:08 PM
I don't think you will find anyone on this forum that would recommend going that route.  We bought one about 2 years ago and after one year it was sagging and hurting our backs.  I will never go back to this type and we've moved on to Latex.  I wish I had found this forum over three years ago and I would have saved myself some wasted time and money.    There are lots of threads here that will be helpful to you.  Search for "Phoenix" and "Budgy", among others would have posted some very useful, educated information.  Don't be too quick to jump on those so-called "deals" you might find.  You also need to post or keep in mind what size and type if sleeper (side or back or stomach) you are, along with your weight, all have to be taken into consideration.  Lots of web sites and even...
Re: Simmons Beautyrest World Class opinions/reviews - Phoenix
Nov 24, 2010 2:26 PM
I don't know the model or size you are looking at but ... if someone was actually selling this for $2100 I'll eat a worm. As a matter of fact I'd probably eat 2 worms, a snail, and a caterpiller :)

If someone actually bought this for that price, I'd REALLY like to be their friend in the hopes that they'd throw some of their money at me as well.

A salesman that will lie to you about this will also probably lie to you about anything else that is important to know. I would guess they are either on commission and not doing well, under pressure (as in you better sell more mattresses or we'll have to let you go), influenced by an employer who encourages their salespeople to stretch the truth for the sake of making a sale, or just an outright liar that...

Re: Simmons BackGuard - Phoenix
Nov 24, 2010 11:33 AM
I believe that is would be much more appropriate than what you were previously considering and it is unlikely that it would be too hard (36 is quite firm for an upper layer but there are people here that think it's perfect). If it was too hard it would certainly be much easier to fix with a topper since the base of this would not represent any "issues". It is pretty certain though that with only 1.5" of latex on top that you would be going through the top layer no matter how firm it was and that the springs themselves would be playing the major role in both your comfort and your support. This could be either "a good thing" or "a bad thing" depending on the type and quality of the springs themselves.

Having said that though ... you are in the budget range of an...

Re: Simmons BackGuard - Phoenix
Nov 23, 2010 10:22 PM
Now you're getting much closer. Even the polyfoam they are using is much higher quality which means more durable both in terms of how long it keeps it's qualities and how long it lasts. This is one of the reasons I like smaller manufacturers because when they do use poly, it will usually be of much higher quality ... and/or they can tell you exactly what to expect from it. This would be much more suitable for adding layers for comfort purposes.

I don't know if this is the best option available as my ability to read some of the sites is a little limited (I can get a sense of them in french but not every detail) and none of them have any prices attached. I did notice though that a retail store I was looking at had dreameasy mattresses and they also seemed to be a...

Re: Simmons BackGuard - Phoenix
Nov 23, 2010 12:28 PM
In general ... I would not buy a mattress made by the "S" comanies under any circumstances. Even if they used the higher quality polyfoams throughout (which they mostly don't), the price of a mattress like this would put them out of the running for me. My personal rule is I would not buy a mattress that has more than 1" of polyfoam in the upper layers unless I was forced to by a very limited budget and this mattress has much more than 1" of polyfoam. With more than 1" of polyfoam, a mattress is also not a good candidate for using as a base for layers on top should you want to "fix it" in any way after you purchase it.

If I was "forced" to go with polyfoam in the upper layers by budget (was looking at spending under $500 or likely even less), I...

Re: Simmons BackGuard - Phoenix
Nov 22, 2010 9:30 AM
Just in case ... and since it only takes me a few minutes to list them ... these are the mattress manufacturers in my list in Quebec. I doubt the last 3 would have anything suitable for you but the rest may be worth looking at.

Phoenix

http://www.fabricantdematelas.com/en/manufacturer/pocket-spring-mattresses.html

http://www.matelasbourck.qc.ca/matelas_intro.html

http://www.matelasalhorizontal.com/en/index.php

http://www.matelasavanti.com/produits.html

http://www.matelasrene.com/

http://www.matelas-personnel.com/index.html

http://www.matelasorthopedique.com/en/index.html#

http://www.mirabelmat.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=1

http://www.matelasconfort.com/matelas/index.php

http://www.literielaurier.com/en/deta/index.php?produitid=21

http://www.zedbed.com/mattress.html

https://catalogue.matelasdauphin.com/products/1-Mattresses/

http://www.matelaslapensee.ca/en/produits/produits.php

http://kaymedcanada.com/products.asp

http://www.myessentia.com/

http://www.primointernational.com/

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Re: Simmons BackGuard - ZZZZ
Nov 24, 2010 11:07 AM
Talked back to him today and he offers to replace the 2 x 0.5 inches of 2.2 lbs foam with 1.5 inch of Talalay latex, ILD 36 on each side. That would bring the price up by 360 dollars, so it would be 1200$. The only other thing in the mattress, except for the coils and the surface quilting is a full felt and and then another piece of felt for the center 1/3 of the mattress to reinforce the lumbar and center area. Obviously, I can’t try the mattress before it will be made so what do you think? Would that make it too soft, just right or still too hard? A mattress is already a blind purchase but a mattress that you can't even try is an act of faith! 

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Re: Simmons BackGuard - ZZZZ
Nov 23, 2010 7:25 PM
Went back a second time and felt way too soft so I gave up on the Goose Bay. It strange how your judgment can get affected by stress, pain and anxiety. I couldn't believe I had found it comfortable the first time. I now fear that I can't even trust myself to pick a mattress anymore. Oh! The agony...

Our last mattress, which lasted almost 20 years, was a Simmons and they use pocket coils, which is why I tend to check them out more. My plan B is still to get the firm Classic. I know it wouldn't last very long but I could be sleeping on it 24 hours after purchasing it and it can be had for about 650, which is still a lot of money for 3 or 4 years of use but it would solve my problem quickly.

Been diagnosed with...

Re: Simmons BackGuard - ZZZZ
Nov 23, 2010 6:27 AM
I  intend to go visit Matelas Bourck and Matelas Lapensée, but I will have to make a special trip for each of them as they are located in different directions.

 

This morning, I tried this Simmons Millenium Goose Bay, which felt pretty good in the Plush Firm (13.5 gage coils). What do you think of it?

Click on Simmons, Millenium and then Goose Bay.

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Simmons Beautyrest World Class opinions/reviews - Snuffleupagus
Nov 24, 2010 12:27 PM
Hi all,

Stopped by a mattress dealer outlet and was directed towards a "last years model" "floor model" Simmons Beautyrest World Class firm mattress (but not super firm).  Was shown the price new, somewhere around $2100 apparently and can buy this for around $850.  My intention was to spend around $600, but felt it might be more worth my money to go this route.  Does anyone have experience with this bed?  If opinions are poor, what would you recommend for around $850?

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