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Re: Curious about Stearns and Foster mattresses - Kait
Sep 14, 2009 8:23 AM
Sep 14, 2009 8:23 AM
So, Alex, do you have any ideas about why their older style mattresses failed for so many of us?
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Re: Short Guide to Mattress Sizes - Kait
Sep 11, 2009 2:15 PM
Sep 11, 2009 2:15 PM
Hey, Alexander!
I just wanted to tell you that I appreciate your being on the site with your knowledge of the beds out there and the bedding industry in general. The dissatisfaction you hear from us is frustration from having wasted money time and again, knowing that there are beds out there that feel good, but unable to sort through the bs to find one. Other than you, there is only one other bed-person online to ask questions of, and he's quite biased toward Sealy and Stearns & Foster. It is supremely helpful to many of us to be able to figure out what is in a certain bed we've tried that worked great, and to be able to re-create the feelign in our own bed. Many of us, especially those who have performed mattress surgery, myself included, have lost faith that any of the big guys offer any product that...
I just wanted to tell you that I appreciate your being on the site with your knowledge of the beds out there and the bedding industry in general. The dissatisfaction you hear from us is frustration from having wasted money time and again, knowing that there are beds out there that feel good, but unable to sort through the bs to find one. Other than you, there is only one other bed-person online to ask questions of, and he's quite biased toward Sealy and Stearns & Foster. It is supremely helpful to many of us to be able to figure out what is in a certain bed we've tried that worked great, and to be able to re-create the feelign in our own bed. Many of us, especially those who have performed mattress surgery, myself included, have lost faith that any of the big guys offer any product that...
Re: Curious about Stearns and Foster mattresses - Alexander
Sep 14, 2009 12:12 PM
Sep 14, 2009 12:12 PM
twalkman wrote:
Interesting. That inspired me to go to do a search on S&F coil on coil design. I found this at their website: http://www.stearnsandfoster.com/mattressStyle.aspx
It appears they are still using a coil on coil design. This certainly makes it look incredibly impressive and build well enough to last 20 years. The fact that it's lasting 1.5 years for low weight people must mean that it is some foam breaking down. Perhaps it's the layer of foam between the coils, although it really feels like it's more of the top padding.
But this is helpful in giving me something else to consider when I open up the mattress.
p.s. I sure wouldn't buy another S&F mattress for at least 3-5 years from now to find out if they've really solved their durability problem. Especially considering their standard for warranty replacement has left previous customers out of luck (and money).
It appears they are still using a coil on coil design. This certainly makes it look incredibly impressive and build well enough to last 20 years. The fact that it's lasting 1.5 years for low weight people must mean that it is some foam breaking down. Perhaps it's the layer of foam between the coils, although it really feels like it's more of the top padding.
But this is helpful in giving me something else to consider when I open up the mattress.
p.s. I sure wouldn't buy another S&F mattress for at least 3-5 years from now to find out if they've really solved their durability problem. Especially considering their standard for warranty replacement has left previous customers out of luck (and money).
The...
Re: Curious about Stearns and Foster mattresses - Alexander
Sep 14, 2009 8:42 AM
Sep 14, 2009 8:42 AM
I do not.
I noticed an increase in the warranty exchange rate for mattresses purchased during that time as well. It was enough for Stearns to do a redesign.
If I had to make a professional guess I'd say it had to do with the coil on coil design. Poor support for the top coils.
-Alex...
Re: Curious about Stearns and Foster mattresses - Alexander
Sep 14, 2009 7:09 AM
Sep 14, 2009 7:09 AM
twalkman wrote:
You're right, the S&F marketing terms sound good -- but performance didn't live up to the hype on the top of the line mattress we bought we bought 3 years ago. The plush level cushioning formed a noticeable hump in the middle within 1.5 years and now the mattress is unusable to us.
Also the current issue of Consumer Reports lists S&F as the next to worst brand in their customer satisfaction survey so I don't think we're the only ones with this experience. Sad since they used to be considered the gold standard and still charge that way.
Also the current issue of Consumer Reports lists S&F as the next to worst brand in their customer satisfaction survey so I don't think we're the only ones with this experience. Sad since they used to be considered the gold standard and still charge that way.
The current Stearns and Foster spring and foam systems are unrelated to both yours and the ones in the Consumer Reports survey. They've redesigned the bed since then.
-Alex...
Re: Has anyone had any experience with... - Alexander
Sep 10, 2009 7:13 AM
Sep 10, 2009 7:13 AM
Hello Maars,
Lady Americana is a regional brand owned by the Mathis Brothers company. They approached me some years ago about carrying their product in my shop. The coils they use are one of two kinds - Bonnell or Marshal. Bonnell coils are great for spare bedrooms, kid's bedrooms, or short-term solutions but not suitable, in most cases, for two adults every night for ten years. Especially two heavier adults. If you're spending enough to get into the portion of their line that uses the Marshal coil, there are two major manufacturers I've had positive experience with that use the coil or a variation - Simmons or Stearns and Foster Core.
Regarding double pillowtops, you have to do some backpacking to find them now but they do exist. The industry as a whole moved away from them around 2005. All in all, it was a positive move. The double pillowtop (or double-sided...
Re: Curious about Stearns and Foster mattresses - twalkman
Sep 14, 2009 12:53 PM
Sep 14, 2009 12:53 PM
Alexander wrote:
It appears the link I got from google above is to their old design and no longer actively linked on their site (makes you wonder what else is hidden there).
Alex:
Question: Would you guess the permanent body depressions that started appearing within a year are attributable to a break down in the springs, or a break down in the foams used in the padding?
And do you think the depressions will continue to get deeper and deeper, or the depressions have sunk to their natural level and the rest of the mattress won't because it doesn't get constantly used?...
The current Estate Stearns and Foster coil is not coil on coil. It's coil IN coil.
-Alex
It appears the link I got from google above is to their old design and no longer actively linked on their site (makes you wonder what else is hidden there).
Alex:
Question: Would you guess the permanent body depressions that started appearing within a year are attributable to a break down in the springs, or a break down in the foams used in the padding?
And do you think the depressions will continue to get deeper and deeper, or the depressions have sunk to their natural level and the rest of the mattress won't because it doesn't get constantly used?...
Re: Curious about Stearns and Foster mattresses - twalkman
Sep 14, 2009 10:41 AM
Sep 14, 2009 10:41 AM
Alexander wrote:
Interesting. That inspired me to go to do a search on S&F coil on coil design. I found this at their website: http://www.stearnsandfoster.com/mattressStyle.aspx
It appears they are still using a coil on coil design. This certainly makes it look incredibly impressive and build well enough to last 20 years. The fact that it's lasting 1.5 years for low weight people must mean that it is some foam breaking down. Perhaps it's the layer of foam between the coils, although it really feels like it's more of the top padding.
But this is helpful in giving me something else to consider when I open up the mattress.
p.s. I sure wouldn't buy another S&F mattress for at least 3-5 years from now to find...
If I had to make a professional guess I'd say it had to do with the coil on coil design. Poor support for the top coils.
-Alex
Interesting. That inspired me to go to do a search on S&F coil on coil design. I found this at their website: http://www.stearnsandfoster.com/mattressStyle.aspx
It appears they are still using a coil on coil design. This certainly makes it look incredibly impressive and build well enough to last 20 years. The fact that it's lasting 1.5 years for low weight people must mean that it is some foam breaking down. Perhaps it's the layer of foam between the coils, although it really feels like it's more of the top padding.
But this is helpful in giving me something else to consider when I open up the mattress.
p.s. I sure wouldn't buy another S&F mattress for at least 3-5 years from now to find...
Re: Curious about Stearns and Foster mattresses - twalkman
Sep 13, 2009 6:07 PM
Sep 13, 2009 6:07 PM
You're right, the S&F marketing terms sound good -- but performance didn't live up to the hype on the top of the line mattress we bought we bought 3 years ago. The plush level cushioning formed a noticeable hump in the middle within 1.5 years and now the mattress is unusable to us.
Also the current issue of Consumer Reports lists S&F as the next to worst brand in their customer satisfaction survey so I don't think we're the only ones with this experience. Sad since they used to be considered the gold standard and still charge that way....
Also the current issue of Consumer Reports lists S&F as the next to worst brand in their customer satisfaction survey so I don't think we're the only ones with this experience. Sad since they used to be considered the gold standard and still charge that way....
DIY Questions before I start mattress surgery. - twalkman
Sep 12, 2009 8:01 PM
Sep 12, 2009 8:01 PM
I have a Stearns and Foster Plush level mattress a little less than 3 years old that has formed sever depressions. We were happy with the mattress for a year and half. I've got to believe the springs are good and that the cushioning just needs to be replaced. I've read as many of the threads as I could find on this forum, but it's hard without a more advanced search function.
1) S&F says they use "hypersoft and "Supersoft" foam for the top layers. Any idea if this stuff is latex or memory foam or something else?
2) Is it likely that some of the foam layers will be OK and reusable, or will they most likely all need to be replaced.
3) Should I buy an 1" or 2" of tapalay latex before I start surgery so I can have a sleepable bed right away? Or do I really...
1) S&F says they use "hypersoft and "Supersoft" foam for the top layers. Any idea if this stuff is latex or memory foam or something else?
2) Is it likely that some of the foam layers will be OK and reusable, or will they most likely all need to be replaced.
3) Should I buy an 1" or 2" of tapalay latex before I start surgery so I can have a sleepable bed right away? Or do I really...