Re: HELP building DIY mattress with 3" latex over 6" Poly foam base or just get 6" latex - Phoenix
Jan 12, 2011 8:40 PM
I have read that you say shouldn't have over 3" of comfort layer I think that 3" is sort of a "starting point" to go up or down from. Some will prefer 1" (stomach sleepers maybe) and some may need 5" (heavier side sleepers) but 3" is a good place to begin from.
Originally I was looking at 3" latex, 3" premium 36ILD foam, and 3" lux 50 on bottom. The reason I decided against the 36 foam was that I read couple people said it didn't last very long.
How long a polyfoam lasts has very little to do with its ILD and much more to do with its density. Lower grades are up to 1.8 lbs/cu ft. Medium grades are called HD (High Density) and are from 1.8 - 2.4 lbs/cu ft. the highest grades are called HR (High Resilience)...
Re: Where to begin? - Phoenix
Jan 9, 2011 7:40 PM
Probably your safest place to begin would be to avoid any mattresses made by the major manufacturers (Sealy, Serta, Simmons, Stearns and Foster, Spring air etc.). The biggest reason for this is their use of cheap soft polyfoam in the comfort layers (the upper layers) of their mattresses. While there are a very few models of these companies that may have better construction, these are also way overpriced in comparison to other brands ... especially regional and local mattress manufacturers who use better materials and in general provide much better value.
You will probably find in searching through the many threads here that if there is one consistent theme in this forum it is to avoid polyfoam (certainly anything over 1" or less than an HR grade) in a mattress' comfort layers unless you budget demands that you buy a very inexpensive mattress where the price you pay...
Re: Opinions about the quality of Sueno, Savvy Rest and Bella Serta? - Phoenix
Jan 8, 2011 1:43 PM
I would agree with Budgy that of these choices the Sueno (in it's nicest version) is the nicest followed by the Bella Sera (assuming this is what you meant) and IMO Habitat furnishings is not even in the same ballpark. The cover and construction would depend to some degree on which version of the Sueno you were looking at as they (
Sleeptek) also make mattresses with "lesser" covers or that are not reversible and without the cotton layers in between in which case IMO the Bella Sera may be better value.
Savvy rest offer's a "do it yourself" latex mattress in either Dunlop or Talalay but they are much higher in price than others with the same materials, flexibility, quality, and construction.
A place that carries all of the choices you mentioned (as well as other high quality latex mattresses) is here (I suspect from...
Re: Dilemma with replacing Sealy Collamore w/a Sealy Embody. Help! - Phoenix
Jan 4, 2011 11:56 AM
You are very fortunate to get a warranty replacement as their exclusions usually protect them from having to honor it. It must have been pretty "ugly" :)
Your Collamore had about 4.5" of soft polyfoam (the kind that breaks down and leads to depression issues) and a little bit of latex over the latex core. It's certainly not surprising that it developed depressions. Most of the "S" brand mattresses (Sealy, Simmons, Serta, Stearns and foster, Spring Air) and most of the major national brands have these same issues ... especially in pillowtops, eurotops, and thick mattresses in general. They all love to put cheap polyfoam in the upper layers of their mattresses. The problem is worse since they all went to primarily making one sided mattresses. The collamore is the same as the fairway dunes and you can see the specs here.
The embody latex...
Dallas Mattress Shopping - Fisherman
Jan 2, 2011 6:13 AM
I am hoping someone might point us in the right direction.
We are currently mattress shopping and trying to get something that will actually last and be comfortable in the process. We have always had S Brands or the like.
I have read more than I probably should on the subject and done several searches and am thinking we want to make a sincere effort at going with something a little better this time around. We don't want to buy a mattress without laying down on it first, so we are a bit uncomfortable buying online. We have made most of the department stores and mattress places and have come to the conclusion, they are all about the same. (Considering Sleep Experts more than the other stores.)Thus the option is go with a cheaper S Brand and plan to replace in five years or go a little more...
Re: Dilemma with replacing Sealy Collamore w/a Sealy Embody. Help! - tommygun715
Jan 8, 2011 7:00 PM
Okay, I'm going to need some more feedback. We went to Mattress Giant today to try and narrow our options, leaning toward the Embody by Sealy. We were a little taken off guard when the sales staff they would do an even exchange for ANY of their Simmons, Sealy (latex or inner spring), or Sterns and Foster; regardless if the price was higher. So instead of just replacing our mattress, they would also replace the box spring/foundation. That totals $2100 ($1735 for the defective Collamore mattress, $365 for the box spring). If we refused the even exchange, we could put the $2100 toward either the tempurpedic, or the Kingsdown. With all the nightmare stories I've read on this forum regarding pillowtop mattresses, polyfoam cores, fillers, etc..., we have now shifted our focus to the tempurpedic deluxe. The only catch, we would have to pay a $1100 upgrade. I maybe crazy...
Where to begin? - VVision
Jan 9, 2011 6:09 PM
Been looking through this website and while there is so much great information it is also so overwhelming. Here is a little background on my situation:
My wife and I just bought our first full bedroom set in a King size setup. Previously we had a queen size oak bed with a Simmons Beauty Rest Salisbury Pillow Top. We've been sleeping on this mattress for the last 10 or so years. Within the last two years we have really felt the sag in the mattress and are ready to move up in size and comfort.
We went to our local Sleep Train mattress s tore and tried out several Simmons, Sealy and Stearns and Foster. My wife is completely against memory foam so the Temperpudics they had were out of the question. We spent a little over an hour trying out the different...
Re: HELP building DIY mattress with 3" latex over 6" Poly foam base or just get 6" latex - peclark
Jan 16, 2011 3:03 PM
Well I went to Minneapolis and wanted to write about what I tried out and get feedback. I plan on buying something for queen size online this week.
1) Tried Simmons extra firm with 800 and one with 1000 coils. They both felt good but of course decided to stay away from mattress with coils and cheap poly.
2) Another store had an Ashley with 7" poly, 2" 19 ILD latexm, and 1" 28 ILD latex, and 1/2" poly for $1049. It felt good but tiny bit soft. Also had a Restonic with 2" poly base (said it is for reducing to keep latex from jiggling which I thought was funny), 7" dunlop, 2" super soft latex, 1.5" poly quilt top for $1379. It felt little too soft also but felt nice.
3) Next found a place that...
Re: HELP building DIY mattress with 3" latex over 6" Poly foam base or just get 6" latex - peclark
Jan 12, 2011 5:33 PM
Do you know of any posts or information where discussions have compared latex layers to approximate a certain big S mattress. For example, I mentioned at local stores I liked the Simmons extra firm beautyrest....the salesman said they referred to it as the rock...but it felt fine to me. I would love to find combination of latex layers and/or poly that would approximate it. Again, I may not like it after sleeping on it for awhile. Sigh...not looking forward to this journey. BTW, the 6" top poly I am sleeping on is an Englander all foam that is like 40 years old. I checked and it is not latex. When I started journey few years ago because of my bad back I tried building a cheap tempurpedic with the extra firm poly base and memory and didn't like it. I foolishly got talked into an Englander coil plush by salesman...
HELP building DIY mattress with 3" latex over 6" Poly foam base or just get 6" latex - peclark
Jan 12, 2011 10:38 AM
Hi, I am 40 and 6'2" and about 190 lbs. I equally sleep on back and skid and like a firm mattress and have lower back problems. I don't have disc, etc. problems but my muscles get fatigued very easily when doing any activity and they will also go out and spasm easily. I don't have much selection in my area, I liked the extra firm Simmons beautyrest at couple of stores. This weekend I plan on going to Minneapolis to try some all latex in dunlop and taladay.
I am using a queen waterbed foundation and right now using a 5" extra firm Poly base that is from JCpenney and an old 6 inch Poly foam mattress my parents had which is surprisingly still in decent shape. I like the feeling of sleeping on foam and like feeling of the tempurpedic beds and all latex bed...