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Re: Update - Returned Flobed & bought Stearns & Foster - jimsocal
Nov 19, 2009 1:02 PM
Nov 19, 2009 1:02 PM
randys wrote:
Good luck with your mattress! Please do give us at least one report on it when you feel like you know something... and maybe one more if you have a change of opinion after some time.
The good thing is that they do have a sleep guarantee so you are not out a lot of money if it does not work (as long as you are careful with the mattress;...
I am getting the rhapsody as soon as the new carpet in my house is installed.....didnt want the carpet guys manhandling my brand new tempurpedic, especially since I may end up returning it within the 90 day window...
Flobeds is actually close to me and I would like nothing more than for them to be successful...they are about a 2 1/2 hour drive away...
I will report back after a short time with my new bed, which will be soon.
Thanks
Flobeds is actually close to me and I would like nothing more than for them to be successful...they are about a 2 1/2 hour drive away...
I will report back after a short time with my new bed, which will be soon.
Thanks
Good luck with your mattress! Please do give us at least one report on it when you feel like you know something... and maybe one more if you have a change of opinion after some time.
The good thing is that they do have a sleep guarantee so you are not out a lot of money if it does not work (as long as you are careful with the mattress;...
Re: Update - Returned Flobed & bought Stearns & Foster - jimsocal
Nov 17, 2009 1:11 PM
Nov 17, 2009 1:11 PM
randys wrote:
Randys, I'm sorry you were told you were asking too many questions. I don't remember your post.
SOMEtimes someone comes here and asks questions without doing any "homework"...
I too noticed the plethora of pro Flobed postings here...but at some point I asked one too many questions and someone here was kind enough to tell me I should just go to a store or something...
kinda funny, because my interaction with the internet and message boards in particular, is rather immense, too much probably...and when someone informs you that you are asking too many questions or arent too serious about the subject, or whatever I was told, you are surprised....and obviously a little annoyed...
so as a result i havent posted in a while, not worth the stress of reading negative comments -
Whether or not Flobeds itself is influencing this website, I dont have a clue.
kinda funny, because my interaction with the internet and message boards in particular, is rather immense, too much probably...and when someone informs you that you are asking too many questions or arent too serious about the subject, or whatever I was told, you are surprised....and obviously a little annoyed...
so as a result i havent posted in a while, not worth the stress of reading negative comments -
Whether or not Flobeds itself is influencing this website, I dont have a clue.
Randys, I'm sorry you were told you were asking too many questions. I don't remember your post.
SOMEtimes someone comes here and asks questions without doing any "homework"...
Re: The Prince and the Pea... yes, we really can be that sensitive! - eagle2
Nov 24, 2009 12:26 PM
Nov 24, 2009 12:26 PM
Jim: You know I respect your genuine efforts to find a comfortable sleeping surface even going to the extreme extent of performing mattress surgery many times in your pursuit of the best sleeping surface.
A lot of people do not have the courage, the time, nor the inclination to attempt this type of approach. Therefore they must look to manufactured mattresses to try to find the perfect nights sleep.
As has been discussed ad infinitum, the big S brands do not facilitate this search. Instead they seem to prey upon the situation with their "naming conventions" and lack of any real information about what goes into their mattresses. This is tragic actually, because they should be the people with the most knowledge and ability to produce the best mattress. But I'm afraid that a long time ago, greed took over this important manufacturing process.
Thank God for boards like this one that allow...
A lot of people do not have the courage, the time, nor the inclination to attempt this type of approach. Therefore they must look to manufactured mattresses to try to find the perfect nights sleep.
As has been discussed ad infinitum, the big S brands do not facilitate this search. Instead they seem to prey upon the situation with their "naming conventions" and lack of any real information about what goes into their mattresses. This is tragic actually, because they should be the people with the most knowledge and ability to produce the best mattress. But I'm afraid that a long time ago, greed took over this important manufacturing process.
Thank God for boards like this one that allow...
Re: Update - Returned Flobed & bought Stearns & Foster - eagle2
Nov 17, 2009 6:28 PM
Nov 17, 2009 6:28 PM
randys: I have to agree with everything that Jim has said.
Sorry you were treated unfairly regarding receiving advice. Even though some folks don't seem to understand how this forum works,( share and share alike) rather they want to ask some questions, usually without giving many details, get their answers and leave. Many of them never returning after making two or three posts.
I have always felt like that when you utilize a resource such as this forum, you should be willing to do some "give back". Which is not hard really, all that is necessary is to simply report your experience with your new mattress. It's not necessary to go into the elaborate detail that Jim and I seem to have a proclivity for.
As far as anyone being a "shill" as Jim has appropriately called it, I have not been aware of it either. We did have one individual who came...
Sorry you were treated unfairly regarding receiving advice. Even though some folks don't seem to understand how this forum works,( share and share alike) rather they want to ask some questions, usually without giving many details, get their answers and leave. Many of them never returning after making two or three posts.
I have always felt like that when you utilize a resource such as this forum, you should be willing to do some "give back". Which is not hard really, all that is necessary is to simply report your experience with your new mattress. It's not necessary to go into the elaborate detail that Jim and I seem to have a proclivity for.
As far as anyone being a "shill" as Jim has appropriately called it, I have not been aware of it either. We did have one individual who came...
Re: Buyer's remorse from an "S" brand! I need a replacement! Suggestions?!?! - fubu04
Nov 15, 2009 11:44 PM
Nov 15, 2009 11:44 PM
jimsocal wrote:
It's almost certainly too soft even though it may feel too hard.<BR>Let me explain:<BR>I bought the firmest Englander they had, but it hurt my back. It felt hard to sleep on but when I opened it up it had 3" of unsupportive foam inside (see the thread I linked you to for visuals - make sure you click the link below the first post or so that says SEE ALL POSTS or something like that).<BR>So, once I opened it up, with a razor type knife, I saw the 3" of cheap crappy foam, took them out, replaced them with some higher quality foam and then it was great.<BR><BR>I'd try getting 2 or4 3 1" layers of latex in various ILD's: maybe a super soft one for the top, and under that a 28ILD and a 32ILD. If you want you can keep the very bottom...
Re: Update - Returned Flobed & bought Stearns & Foster - randys
Nov 17, 2009 2:47 PM
Nov 17, 2009 2:47 PM
I am getting the rhapsody as soon as the new carpet in my house is installed.....didnt want the carpet guys manhandling my brand new tempurpedic, especially since I may end up returning it within the 90 day window...
Flobeds is actually close to me and I would like nothing more than for them to be successful...they are about a 2 1/2 hour drive away...
I will report back after a short time with my new bed, which will be soon.
Thanks...
Flobeds is actually close to me and I would like nothing more than for them to be successful...they are about a 2 1/2 hour drive away...
I will report back after a short time with my new bed, which will be soon.
Thanks...
Re: Update - Returned Flobed & bought Stearns & Foster - randys
Nov 17, 2009 12:24 PM
Nov 17, 2009 12:24 PM
I too noticed the plethora of pro Flobed postings here...but at some point I asked one too many questions and someone here was kind enough to tell me I should just go to a store or something...
kinda funny, because my interaction with the internet and message boards in particular, is rather immense, too much probably...and when someone informs you that you are asking too many questions or arent too serious about the subject, or whatever I was told, you are surprised....and obviously a little annoyed...
so as a result i havent posted in a while, not worth the stress of reading negative comments -
Whether or not Flobeds itself is influencing this website, I dont have a clue....
kinda funny, because my interaction with the internet and message boards in particular, is rather immense, too much probably...and when someone informs you that you are asking too many questions or arent too serious about the subject, or whatever I was told, you are surprised....and obviously a little annoyed...
so as a result i havent posted in a while, not worth the stress of reading negative comments -
Whether or not Flobeds itself is influencing this website, I dont have a clue....
Re: Update - Returned Flobed & bought Stearns & Foster - JasonRatky
Nov 26, 2009 6:51 PM
Nov 26, 2009 6:51 PM
BobJ wrote:
It has been a while since I've posted. I am happy with the bed I have now. Here is a summary of the entire saga:
Flobed: I purchased a Flobed in early January. I got the setup that was indicated to be firm. It was too soft for me. I did several core exchanges to get super firm cores but still too much of a sag for my back. I returned it in April.
Stearns & Foster: I bought a firm bed from Sears. If you don't like the bed, you can return it within 30 days, no questions asked. It definitely did not sag which was a big improvement but it was quite hard. I woke up with backaches because it didn't provide any arch support to my back. I had seen reviews of latex mattress toppers on this site and...
Flobed: I purchased a Flobed in early January. I got the setup that was indicated to be firm. It was too soft for me. I did several core exchanges to get super firm cores but still too much of a sag for my back. I returned it in April.
Stearns & Foster: I bought a firm bed from Sears. If you don't like the bed, you can return it within 30 days, no questions asked. It definitely did not sag which was a big improvement but it was quite hard. I woke up with backaches because it didn't provide any arch support to my back. I had seen reviews of latex mattress toppers on this site and...
Re: closest firmness to a sealy posturepedic signature firm, foam style - JasonRatky
Nov 25, 2009 11:56 PM
Nov 25, 2009 11:56 PM
KimberlyH wrote:
. 1.Are you sure you need it that firm? 2.May I ask what is prompting you to fix on that number other than knowing you want a very firm mattress?
1. I am only sure that I need one as firm as a Sealy Posturepedic Signature Firm or Stearns & Foster Ultra Firm, which I sleep well on (when new). Even their Cushion Firm, only one level softer (& with a fourth the amount of marvelux as the firm), is too plush for me.
2. That is actually the crux of my opening question: a) the type of conventional beds I like are very firm, b) these type of beds have alot of marvelux above the springs, c) marvelux has a high ILD (40's to 50's? likened to a tennis shoe's midsole), d) a latex with a firmness as closely matching that my conv. mattress as possible would have a similar ild. THerefore, I am seeking latex with an ild in the 40's to 50's. unfortunately, c)...
Re: closest firmness to a sealy posturepedic signature firm, foam style - JasonRatky
Nov 25, 2009 11:26 PM
Nov 25, 2009 11:26 PM
eagle2 wrote:
Jason: Not fearing the thought police, let me suggest to you that you give FlowBeds a try. They can provide you with a super firm latex in blended, (only) from 42 to 46 ILD. I would think that 9" of this would feel like concrete to me. But never having slept on it, or even felt it, this is purely a guess.
I am currently sleeping on one side of my bed that has two extra firm (36ILD) layers topped off with a medium layer (28 ILD) and of course the ever present to all FlowBeds, a 2" layer of convoluted latex, which I am assuming is somewhere between 26 and 28 ILD. The other side of my bed has two firm layers at 32 ILD with a bottom layer of extra firm at 36 ILD. This is all 100% natural botanically grown latex. The two...
I am currently sleeping on one side of my bed that has two extra firm (36ILD) layers topped off with a medium layer (28 ILD) and of course the ever present to all FlowBeds, a 2" layer of convoluted latex, which I am assuming is somewhere between 26 and 28 ILD. The other side of my bed has two firm layers at 32 ILD with a bottom layer of extra firm at 36 ILD. This is all 100% natural botanically grown latex. The two...