Re: Aerus Natural 5lb. First Impressions - markbnh1
Oct 16, 2010 12:25 PM
Congrats Sandman, sounds like you are getting close to 95%! haha You know, after looking at your latest setup I'm wondering if the "feel" is actually quite similar to my latest arrangement. From sheets down I have: Natura washable wool pad, 1 inch Sensus memory foam, 3 inches 24-28 ILD latex, (This is my 4 inch comfort layer) This sits on 2.5 inches of 32 ILD latex and 6 inches of 40 ILD latex. I consider the bottom latex layers to be support base only.
Yes, the Natura pad does add a bit of firmness to the top layers.
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Re: Aerus Natural 5lb. Impressions - sandman
Oct 28, 2010 7:29 AM
I am coming to the conclusion that 2.5" of the 5lb Aerus is not supportive enough for me as the top layer. I think it has softened slightly after breaking in, and I had a little back pain this morning. I do feel like it sinks in too much in the hip area, which would explain some back pain. I am 6'4" 212, so maybe it works better for some one lighter.
I like the soft cushy feel, but 2.5" is probalby too much. I would say there is a material difference (support and firmness) between this and the Sensus, even thought they are both made by Foamex and both have 5lb density.
My gut instinct is that there is some tradeoff between support and breathability. That makes sense that if you optimize on one variable, you will have to give up on something else. I know most think...
Re: Aerus Natural 5lb. First Impressions - sandman
Oct 22, 2010 4:29 PM
Last night I tried using a folded 1" piece of Overstock Sensus (5lb memory foam) to compare to the 5lb Aerus. It definitely had a firmer harder feel than the Aerus. The Aeurs is 1/2" thicker, so that will explain some of the difference.
I even added 1" of 19ILD latex below, and it still seemed firmer. I did not get noticably hotter using the Sensus (slightly surprising to me). I have 2 layers of wool and it was a cool night, so maybe not the best test for that. However, the firmer aspect can help make it cooler - less surrounded by foam.
Right now I prefer the softer, cushier feel of the Aerus vs. the 2" of Sensu. However, many here seem to like a firmer feel, so the Sensus may work better for most. Especially those with sensitive backs.
So far I plan to stick with...
Re: Aerus Natural 5lb. First Impressions - sandman
Oct 16, 2010 10:21 AM
Latest results:
I added 2 mattress pads to try to make it a little firmer (less sinking in). I put a 100% cotton one that I have over the 3" of latex (pulled tight as I could) to make it a bit firmer below the Aerus . Then I put the wool Natura one over the wool topper on top of the 5lb. Aerus.
Presto! a bit firmer feel and less sinking in feeling. Still pretty good pressure relief and molding to the body. A bit harder, less plush feel, but that is the tradeoff.
Originally I was going to try with only 2" of latex below, but that felt too hard. So, at 1am I added back the 1" 24 latex.
I ended up sleeping in until 10:20am. I can't tell you the last time I did that. So, maybe I hit on something...
Re: Aerus Natural 5lb. Impressions - tony
Oct 28, 2010 5:28 PM
ok good job report back...
Re: Aerus Natural 5lb. Impressions - tony
Oct 28, 2010 3:22 PM
report back in the morning how that setup is feeling?...
Re: Aerus Natural 5lb. Impressions - chattvol
Oct 28, 2010 5:17 PM
I have also been using the Aerus 2.5" 5lb for about 3 weeks now. I would agree that the sinking in is a bit too much, and overall, it lacks sufficient support. It seems to be helping with pressure points, however, as Sandman has experienced, I am also noticing mild back pain - likely from sinking in too much at the hips. I am waiting for 1" of Celsion 21 to be delivered, and I am also planning to test out the latex over the Aerus with the hope that it will increase the level of support. If I had to guess right now, I would say that I will be returning the Aerus and trying the 1" of Celsion 21 flat for a couple of days, then folded in half for a few days. I am fairly confident that either 1" or 2" latex will do the trick for me...
Re: Memory foam over latex to soften things up? - sleepy_ella
Oct 27, 2010 10:15 PM
@Phoenix: It never would've occurred to me to try a latex-memory foam-latex combo, but it sounds like it could work. I actually prefer the sensation of memory foam, it's the off-gassing I can't stand. I'll keep your recommended set-up in mind in case the mem. foam over latex doesn't work out as anticipated.
@Sandman & Mark: The convoluted latex topper is 28 ILD blended talalay from FloBeds, approximately 2" at the peaks. It's surprisingly supportive and a lot firmer than expected (maybe a cushion firm feel), so I feel fairly confident adding 2" of memory foam on top. I checked out the 1" toppers at Overstock and it seems like all of them are cut shorter than standard mattress dimensions. I have a problem with that because even though I'm only 5'6", I like extra arm room at the top of the mattress. I'm a born sprawler. Thanks...
Re: Aerus Natural 5lb. First Impressions - Phoenix
Oct 15, 2010 11:32 AM
I was just doing a little searching around and there are a lot of sites that are selling the rejuvenite brand name and many of them in their description (even now) are saying that the ones that are described on the packaging as latex or natural latex are Nuform latex. When rejuvenite first came out they were all Nuform latex. This is a real example of brand &/or material "confusion" aggravated with non specific information from LI. At one point even the LI site was saying that Nuform was available in their pillow division but I didn't see it now.
The rejuvenite site describes it as "RejuveNite™ is a line of ultra-premium talalay latex pillow products. It offers a superior alternative to products made with "memory foam" and other synthetic materials." which is similar to how LI describes Nuform "Offers a step-up within a latex or hybrid line-up". It...
Re: Aerus Natural 5lb. First Impressions - Phoenix
Oct 15, 2010 10:53 AM
I'm guessing you are correct given his description on the phone, and he thinks it's the blended Talatech as well, but LI is not so good at supplying information sometimes. In looking around more, the rejuvenite brand also has Celsion pillows and Talatech pillows so it's clearly not only Nuform. I'll still post here what I get that confirmed but I think it's pretty certain it's the blended latex.
Phoenix
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