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Re: Anyone tried a Select Comfort or similar air type mattress? - princesspea
Jan 13, 2009 4:48 PM
I tried a Select Comfort several years ago and absolutely hated it, especially the ridge down the middle when it wasn't fully inflated.  In order to get it to be supportive, it had to be fully inflated which made it uncomfortably hard.  You can't get hung up on the number reading.  It is useless as it changes with the temperature in the room and after you warm the bed while sleeping on it..

Sometime after that, I tried a Nautilus (no longer made) and it wasn't too bad.  At the time, I thought it wasn't good enough.  Little did I know how bad things could get.  I decided after many failures with other things (water, latex, pocketed springs/latex, pocketed springs/pu, McRoskey) to take one last stab at air.  Right now I'm trying a trizone for 90 days.  At the 25-day mark, I'm not sure.  I'm feeling about 80% less sore, but...
Re: Anyone tried a Select Comfort or similar air type mattress? - cloud9
Jan 16, 2009 12:23 AM
jimsocal wrote:
However, even with high quality HR foam, what I find is that the first night or two will often be good but after another night or two, it softens up. I do not know how to fix that problem. ..I will be throwing out the Sealy springs and trying their mattress without the Sealy mattress springs, just the foam sitting on the box springs. If the box springs give too much I'll but a hard board of some sort over the box springs.
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Jim, I know exactly what you're talking about. I had the same experience with a latex mattress. The first night on any configuration was fine. The second night the mattress felt too soft and my back was uncomfortable. It got worse each night until I rearranged the cores again. I thought about this phenomenon long and hard and came to the conclusion that it's not...

Re: Anyone tried a Select Comfort or similar air type mattress? - jimsocal
Feb 8, 2009 3:03 PM
Hi imjay, Yes, I have considered a waterbed. I used to sleep on one of the old wavey squishy waterbags when I was in my 20's and loved it! And  then in my 30's I had a little more complex one with some baffling in it and that was fine, too. Finally it kept leaking at the corners and I had to get rid of it.

Then, about 5 years ago I slept on my nephew's waterbed for a couple nights and that felt very good, too (his was a more modern one with baffling and maybe some foam in it?)

So I am interested in water beds but when I looked at them 7 years or so ago all the ones I found that looked to be of a good quality were too expensive. May I ask if you can recommend a not-too expensive one?

I am not ready to try one...
Re: Anyone tried a Select Comfort or similar air type mattress? - jimsocal
Jan 14, 2009 12:19 PM
Kait wrote:
Yup.  I bought one when they first came out.  I got a non-pillowtop which was probably the smartest thing I did.  Darn thing was still over 1K, which was a lot of money back when.  Anyway, only way to sleep on it was with a nice foam pad.  This was also when I was younger and had zero issues(which I think have been caused by the beds and furniture and car seat foam wearing out, but I digress).  I slept OK but the second the foam wore out(which was typically in the middle of the night...it went to dead foam...had to get up)there was no sleeping on the thing.  Face it, we think of air as light, fluffy soft...but compressed air(that in the bed chambers) is used for power tools!!  It is HARD and has no give.  Doesn't support the heavier places.  Feels dead, no rebound. ...
Re: Anyone tried a Select Comfort or similar air type mattress? - jimsocal
Jan 14, 2009 12:05 PM
Thanks for the feedback on SelectComfort! Now I can cross SelectComfort off my list! From looking at them in person, I also agree with what one of you said, that they appear to be made very low quality and way overpriced considering that low quality.

I am curious, though, if the Flobeds model of airbeds might be good. I imagine that their's are at least made with more quality... But waaaay too expensive for my taste. I would only go that route if I was making more money and heard a lot of great reviews on them!...
Re: Anyone tried a Select Comfort or similar air type mattress? - Leo3
Jan 18, 2009 10:37 AM
Cloud9: Where are your pictures??? Did you see my reply before asking what down mattress topper you were using? Are you still using that?

Also are you sure you want to use the latex? I am thinking of ditching mine. My shoulder is in such pain and I try to lift weights or use my Total Gym and it kills me. I have the 1" latex under the cheap foam and the 1" memory foam over that with the Cuddlebed on top. It is not working. I toss and turn after 4 hours sleep, and wake up so tired.

This is very hard to get right, good luck to us all.......
Re: Anyone tried a Select Comfort or similar air type mattress? - Kait
Jan 14, 2009 11:03 AM
Yup.  I bought one when they first came out.  I got a non-pillowtop which was probably the smartest thing I did.  Darn thing was still over 1K, which was a lot of money back when.  Anyway, only way to sleep on it was with a nice foam pad.  This was also when I was younger and had zero issues(which I think have been caused by the beds and furniture and car seat foam wearing out, but I digress).  I slept OK but the second the foam wore out(which was typically in the middle of the night...it went to dead foam...had to get up)there was no sleeping on the thing.  Face it, we think of air as light, fluffy soft...but compressed air(that in the bed chambers) is used for power tools!!  It is HARD and has no give.  Doesn't support the heavier places.  Feels dead, no rebound.  Then I gave it...
Re: Anyone tried a Select Comfort or similar air type mattress? - imjay
Jan 19, 2009 4:57 PM
Select Comfort was part of our research.  Decided against it as we (1) found them waaaay too expensive and (2) we have a inner-spring and air combo mattress in our RV and it is okay for camping but we wouldn't want to sleep on it regularly.

Have you taken a hard look at modern waterbed mattresses??  My bride has a menu of recently identified back problems from curvature of the spine to multiple failing discs.

We have been sleeping on waterbed mattresses for 22 years after an almost new and expensive inner-spring mattress began to sag.

Anyway, she starting having pain while trying to sleep so I simply added water to our 8 yr old mattress which firmed it up and lowered wave action and she is sleeping well.  We have decided to buy one of the dual mode models so that she can have more firmness than I need and the new...

20 or 32 ILD FBM Latex for a Middle Layer? - heybige
Feb 8, 2009 4:53 PM
Hi All,

I posted previously asking about using what PU foam suggestions people may have as a middle support layer for my modded Select Comfort bed.  Currently, the set up is 3" of Isoform 5# MF under the pillowtop, followed immediately by the air baffles.  I originally had the original PU 1" layer underneath the top layer of MF, but found it to be ~too~ cushy.  I removed it and now it feels nice, but would like a little more support underneath the MF. 

I was originally thinking a 2.5" layer of LUX (50 ILD) convoluted foam from FoamByMail, but after reading through past posts over the weekend, I'm convinced Latex is the way to go for the middle layer, in the same way some airbed manufacturers configure their beds (including FloBeds).  I'm thinking 2-3" of 32 ILD may be what I'm looking for, but am worried 32 might be too...
Help considering DIY setup. - 65cobra
Mar 10, 2009 9:32 AM
We have the typical 8 year S brand bed that has had divots for at least 7 years, its so bad we don't even bother to flip it anymore.  We went to a store and I told the salesman I didn't want a bed that was going to get divots, so he showed me select comfort and vera wang.  The airbeds still felt like camping air mattress.  And the wife and I liked the vera wang.  My wife loved the latex pillow.  My wife likes the soft beds I like the firm beds.  But we both felt pretty comfortable with the firmest vera wang they had.  She prefers soft when she tests a bed but thinks a harder bed would be better for her since she never really sleeps very well.  I am 6'2 195 lbs she is 5'6 150 lbs.  So I have a few Qs  As a side...

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