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Re: Discouraged... Does latex break in a lot after a week or two? - jimsocal
Feb 28, 2010 7:35 PM
Feb 28, 2010 7:35 PM
Leo3 wrote:
Thanks Jim, was it blended talalay or natural? Dunlop should be firm, can't understand why it would hurt so much, it doesn't bounce.
Maybe you need to just keep replacing the firm HR foam when it wears out in 6 months?
I removed my 24ILD 1 1/2" and my 20ILD 1" last night, so I just have 3" of ???ILD that I believe is 32ILD. My back was started to spasm by 5 am, and I laid there and slept for a hour each time, woke up, repeat until 8am a Javalina woke me he was playing with a watering plastic can on the patio! I couldn't believe it, until I saw he came back later to play some more. I can't make this stuff up. What a treat, I enjoyed watching him. Back to my mattress... Within a month or so I am going to have to...
Maybe you need to just keep replacing the firm HR foam when it wears out in 6 months?
I removed my 24ILD 1 1/2" and my 20ILD 1" last night, so I just have 3" of ???ILD that I believe is 32ILD. My back was started to spasm by 5 am, and I laid there and slept for a hour each time, woke up, repeat until 8am a Javalina woke me he was playing with a watering plastic can on the patio! I couldn't believe it, until I saw he came back later to play some more. I can't make this stuff up. What a treat, I enjoyed watching him. Back to my mattress... Within a month or so I am going to have to...
Re: Discouraged... Does latex break in a lot after a week or two? - Leo3
Feb 28, 2010 9:23 AM
Feb 28, 2010 9:23 AM
jimsocal wrote:
Long time ago, Leo3. I don't even remember!
Basically I think it boils down to this: my body (and my wife's) prefers springs underneath it! I'm guessing ours was the 9" one based on the fact we didn't want to spend a lot of money and we bought a King size. Felt too springy, too much like it was "pushing back" against my back, wouldn't let my back relax (much like I recently experienced with the Dunlop layer, curiously enough). We exchanged several layers and kept it for around 90 days. Finally we gave up and got a refund. Flobeds was very nice about it.
I put the 1" layer of HR foam back underneath my 2 layers of Talalay (but no 1/2" layer of super firm HR foam underneath that). Will see how that feels tonight. It wasn't TOO bad with only the 1.75" of Talalay on...
Basically I think it boils down to this: my body (and my wife's) prefers springs underneath it! I'm guessing ours was the 9" one based on the fact we didn't want to spend a lot of money and we bought a King size. Felt too springy, too much like it was "pushing back" against my back, wouldn't let my back relax (much like I recently experienced with the Dunlop layer, curiously enough). We exchanged several layers and kept it for around 90 days. Finally we gave up and got a refund. Flobeds was very nice about it.
I put the 1" layer of HR foam back underneath my 2 layers of Talalay (but no 1/2" layer of super firm HR foam underneath that). Will see how that feels tonight. It wasn't TOO bad with only the 1.75" of Talalay on...
Re: Just bought a new Flobeds - Leo3
Feb 27, 2010 6:57 PM
Feb 27, 2010 6:57 PM
eagle2 wrote:
The best that I can recall Leo, the boxes were exactly the same. The difference in weight was due different density of blended ( 70% synthetic, 30% natural) and 100% natural latex. This was quite evident when I went to pick them up. The hundred percent natural is quite a bit heavier than the blended piece.
These were half pieces. In other words about the size of an extra long twin mattress. The weights came from UPS. I'm assuming that they weigh their shipments accurately because it makes a difference in how much money they make. You can usually rely on figures, when if they get it wrong, they're going to lose money!
There is just no question that natural latex is considerably denser than blended latex. I do not know from personal experience, over time, how this would play out of course. As I have stated elsewhere,...
These were half pieces. In other words about the size of an extra long twin mattress. The weights came from UPS. I'm assuming that they weigh their shipments accurately because it makes a difference in how much money they make. You can usually rely on figures, when if they get it wrong, they're going to lose money!
There is just no question that natural latex is considerably denser than blended latex. I do not know from personal experience, over time, how this would play out of course. As I have stated elsewhere,...
Re: I found the best mattress! Thanks for all your help! - Leo3
Feb 26, 2010 8:19 PM
Feb 26, 2010 8:19 PM
TJ12 wrote:
Just want to chime in....to anyone who can afford it...I agree...the all natural Talalay FloBeds are pretty spectacular.
So...here is my update as well...originally started in the "Just bought a new Flobeds" thread....We received our VZone layers two days ago...still adjusting to the change in firmness (I went from a medium top layer to a "firm" VZone as a few spots needed more support for me (i.e. hips and lumbar) and so far, although I suspect I may still be tweaking and experimenting with a few variations to make sure I end up with the best combo for me....(need to give it a little trial time in each variation but .. stole :) my husband's firm feet section so that I could have firm/firm foot and hip support to try)....but WOW....it's great. Seems like the separate sections really do just know...
Re: Natalie's New Flobed - Leo3
Feb 26, 2010 5:17 PM
Feb 26, 2010 5:17 PM
Hi Lynn, Nice to see you posting again 
Some day I will get an all latex bed, maybe Flobeds will be having a sale soon.
Thanks for the response on the wool cover, that was one of the reasons I didn't want a bed with the stitching and puffiness like other beds have, and the mattress pads. Glad you like yours still and the mattress pad does make a difference. Do you sleep on the other side of your mattress for a softer feel like some people here do? That would be a plus, when you want to side sleep switch to the softer side.
My problem is my O-stock latex is too soft and I sink in too much, but since I have no clue on the ILD I have no idea on what ILD to order. You are so thin, and I really don't think you can go...
Some day I will get an all latex bed, maybe Flobeds will be having a sale soon.
Thanks for the response on the wool cover, that was one of the reasons I didn't want a bed with the stitching and puffiness like other beds have, and the mattress pads. Glad you like yours still and the mattress pad does make a difference. Do you sleep on the other side of your mattress for a softer feel like some people here do? That would be a plus, when you want to side sleep switch to the softer side.
My problem is my O-stock latex is too soft and I sink in too much, but since I have no clue on the ILD I have no idea on what ILD to order. You are so thin, and I really don't think you can go...
Re: Potential problems with split layers in Latex layer beds - eagle2
Mar 4, 2010 7:59 PM
Mar 4, 2010 7:59 PM
slindenkohl wrote:
slindenkohl said: "My hesitation with Flobeds, arizona, etc is the idea of buying a bunch of foam layers and having it hold up as a mattress for a long time, just inside a zippered cover."
I'm not sure I understand your question. "Just inside a zippered cover" What do you mean?
All mattresses manufactured are just inside of a cover. All of big S. brands mattresses are just inside a cover. On their innerspring models...
I talked to Arizona Premium mattress company and they told me their blended latex (not 100% natural) comes from the netherlands, while their 100% all natural talalay comes from Latex International.
My hesitation with Flobeds, arizona, etc is the idea of buying a bunch of foam layers and having it hold up as a mattress for a long time, just inside a zippered cover. Anyone else concerned about that? Where are you getting yours--Flobeds?
slindenkohl said: "My hesitation with Flobeds, arizona, etc is the idea of buying a bunch of foam layers and having it hold up as a mattress for a long time, just inside a zippered cover."
I'm not sure I understand your question. "Just inside a zippered cover" What do you mean?
All mattresses manufactured are just inside of a cover. All of big S. brands mattresses are just inside a cover. On their innerspring models...
Re: Potential problems with split layers in Latex layer beds - eagle2
Mar 3, 2010 12:35 PM
Mar 3, 2010 12:35 PM
george wrote:
First off thanks to all on this board. I have been looking to purchase a latex bed for quite some time now, and I almost pulled the trigger on a Sealy model that was made of (mostly) latex. Now that I know a lot more, I am getting really into the details and this forum helps me a lot.
I've been looking at the split layers (one firmness side for each person) and zoned systems (head to toe firmness differences) and I am curious if any of you can share any insight. My questions are below:
1) For the different firmness for each person, the latex needs to be split into two pieces - left side and right side. Are there problems with one edge rubbing up against the other edge and creating a bump in the middle of the bed? Any other potential issues? Or does it...
Re: Flo Beds Convoluted Latex Topper Work for Pressure Point Relief? - eagle2
Feb 27, 2010 11:39 AM
Feb 27, 2010 11:39 AM
Sabra wrote:
Sabra: This is only a guess but based upon the information you have given I would guess that you already have too soft of layering of...
I have layered together a latex mattress (firm dunlop core, 3 layers of 1" latex, the last two being 24 and 22 Talalay ILD. But...my husband and I both toss and turn with pressure point pain in the hips starting half way through the night although everything else about the mattress is comfortable. We're considering ordering a Flo-beds convoluted latex topper to see if it provides enough cushion so we don't wake up sore, which they said they would sell separately. Hate to spend the money and go to the trouble of sending it back if it really won't change things for us. Has anyone who has used it noticed a difference? Any before and after stories? All comments welcome...Thanks.
Sabra: This is only a guess but based upon the information you have given I would guess that you already have too soft of layering of...
Re: Long time lurker, new poster... Mid/Upper back pain with latex, need suggestions... - eagle2
Feb 27, 2010 11:27 AM
Feb 27, 2010 11:27 AM
jms969 wrote:
Mike I do not understand you comment regarding natural Vs. blended. You say: "Just to clarify Dunlop and Talalay are both natural, just traditional vs modern manufacturing process." Do you mean Talalay process versus Dunlop process hundred percent natural botanically grown latex? They are two different processes but they can both be used to manufacture blended latex. However, it's not that important!
I...
Thanks for the feedback guys. Just to clarify Dunlop and Talalay are both natural, just traditional vs modern manufacturing process.
I may order another medium or firm layer (or maybe an extra firm) and try those. i am willing to pay for the layer since it has been a year or so...
So the options would be
medium
medium
firm
or
medium
firm
firm
or
medium
firm
xfirm
PS. I am 5'11" 200lbs, I have tried sleeping with a spacer between my knees, but apparently as soon as I am asleep I toss it on the floor... HAHAHAHAHAHA
I may order another medium or firm layer (or maybe an extra firm) and try those. i am willing to pay for the layer since it has been a year or so...
So the options would be
medium
medium
firm
or
medium
firm
firm
or
medium
firm
xfirm
PS. I am 5'11" 200lbs, I have tried sleeping with a spacer between my knees, but apparently as soon as I am asleep I toss it on the floor... HAHAHAHAHAHA
Mike I do not understand you comment regarding natural Vs. blended. You say: "Just to clarify Dunlop and Talalay are both natural, just traditional vs modern manufacturing process." Do you mean Talalay process versus Dunlop process hundred percent natural botanically grown latex? They are two different processes but they can both be used to manufacture blended latex. However, it's not that important!
I...
Re: Potential problems with split layers in Latex layer beds - slindenkohl
Mar 4, 2010 7:15 PM
Mar 4, 2010 7:15 PM
I talked to Arizona Premium mattress company and they told me their blended latex (not 100% natural) comes from the netherlands, while their 100% all natural talalay comes from Latex International.
My hesitation with Flobeds, arizona, etc is the idea of buying a bunch of foam layers and having it hold up as a mattress for a long time, just inside a zippered cover. Anyone else concerned about that? Where are you getting yours--Flobeds?...