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Re: De-constructing a mattress and box springs - haysdb
Oct 21, 2007 12:52 PM
This is very unexpected. I feel like I just tore apart a perfectly good mattress. 13 year old Sealy Posturepedic La Costa Ultra Plush, a two sided mattress about 12" thick. No impressions, no outward signs that it was breaking down. Take it apart and no INWARD signs that it's breaking down either. How can this be? There is nothing exotic inside - just some fiberfill and two thin layers of PU foam in the quliting, with layers of PU foam and cotton batting under that.

From the (Bonnell) springs up:
  1. A layer of nylon mesh, almost like chicken wire
  2. Two 1/4" thick layers of foam with a pretty high tensile strength (hard to tear)
  3. ~1" Cotton batting (this would have surely compressed, but it did so evenly across the surface)
  4. 1 1/4" convoluted foam
  5. In the ~1.5" quilted cover (top down)
    1. Fiberfill
    2. 1/2" foam
    3. 3/16" foam
Uncompressed this is about 4.25" of material on each side of the...
Re: Wading through the latex info... (and avoiding a kit) - kbell
Oct 4, 2007 6:48 PM
D3Fi wrote:
According to Sapsa, that is incorrect. They claim: "SAPSA Latex offers products in natural latex, synthetic latex, or mixtures of both." Once again, Sealy claims theirs is the 100% synthetic Sapsa latex. Quote from another site: "All the Sealy and S&F latex are 100% SAPSA synthetic latex. There is no natural latex used."



Hmmm, perhaps you are correct.  They do state what you claim.  On the same website that I found the statement that you quote they state, "Latex is made from a rubber-based product versus memory or viscoelastic foam which is derived from plastics."

This information comes from the UK site.  I am not aware of any synthetic products that are currently available.  I could be wrong but I can't find any mention of these products other than this one obscure reference.  Please let us know if you find something to the contrary.

http://www.sapsalatex.com/uk/home.htm...

Re: Wading through the latex info... (and avoiding a kit) - kbell
Oct 4, 2007 8:15 AM
Sapsa is a French bedding manufacturer that Sealy acquired in 2001.  Sapsa is the number one producer of latex in Europe using a Dunlop process.  They built a new plant near Wilkes Barre, PA to produce latex foam using this process and renamed it the Sapsa process.  It is not 100% synthetic.

Carpenter makes Qualatex which is an HR foam that is marketed as a 100% synthetic latex.  Unfortunately the cost is almost as high as actual latex so it has not had great success in the bedding industry....

Re: Wading through the latex info... (and avoiding a kit) - D3Fi
Oct 4, 2007 11:11 AM
kbell wrote:
Sapsa is a French bedding manufacturer that Sealy acquired in 2001.  Sapsa is the number one producer of latex in Europe using a Dunlop process.  They built a new plant near Wilkes Barre, PA to produce latex foam using this process and renamed it the Sapsa process.  It is not 100% synthetic.

Carpenter makes Qualatex which is an HR foam that is marketed as a 100% synthetic latex.  Unfortunately the cost is almost as high as actual latex so it has not had great success in the bedding industry.



According to Sapsa, that is incorrect. They claim: "SAPSA Latex offers products in natural latex, synthetic latex, or mixtures of both." Once again, Sealy claims theirs is the 100% synthetic Sapsa latex. Quote from another site: "All the Sealy and S&F latex are 100% SAPSA synthetic latex. There is no natural latex used."...

Re: Wading through the latex info... (and avoiding a kit) - D3Fi
Oct 4, 2007 7:30 AM
haysdb wrote:
I was not aware there actually was such a thing as 100% synthetic latex.


Well Sealy claims it is anyway....
Re: Wading through the latex info... (and avoiding a kit) - D3Fi
Oct 3, 2007 7:35 AM
Tammy99712 wrote:
Wading Through, I am in the same situation as you. The shipping for SleepEZ and FloBed may be really expensive so my option is Sealy or Costco a bed from Costco. I went and looked at teh Sealy Spring free Meadow Crest but the sales lady could not tell me if it was all latex or what kind of latex the matress had in it. If I am going to spend 2700.00 on a bed I really think they should have the information. I was all set to order from SleepEZ but when I called they had to find out if they could actually ship to Alaska. If any one has any info about Sealy beds let me know I  have had my spring bed for the last 10 years and it was a cheap 400 dollar bed and I DESERVE another bed.



Flobeds was $75-100 shipping...

Re: De-constructing a mattress and box springs - BeddyBye
Oct 21, 2007 7:14 PM
i guess they just don't make 'em like they used to. I can't remember, haysdb, but did you say you were having discomfort when sleeping on this mattress? Or were you just curious to see what was inside? I imagine if I tore apart my old Serta two-sided mattress which is now about 20 years old, I wouldn't find anything or very little wrong with it inside. Even the boxspring is in fine condition.

But, there still could be aging issues with it that you can't tell with the "naked, layman's eye". When my mattress builder opened up my husband's XL Serta (cheapie pillow top from 1992), he said the springs were in perfect condition. But, he knew right away that the foam had broken down. I wish I had been there to see it myself to see what he meant. For all I know, it would have looked okay...
Re: Wading through the latex info... (and avoiding a kit) - Tammy99712
Oct 1, 2007 9:12 PM
Wading Through, I am in the same situation as you. The shipping for SleepEZ and FloBed may be really expensive so my option is Sealy or Costco a bed from Costco. I went and looked at teh Sealy Spring free Meadow Crest but the sales lady could not tell me if it was all latex or what kind of latex the matress had in it. If I am going to spend 2700.00 on a bed I really think they should have the information. I was all set to order from SleepEZ but when I called they had to find out if they could actually ship to Alaska. If any one has any info about Sealy beds let me know I  have had my spring bed for the last 10 years and it was a cheap 400 dollar bed and I DESERVE another bed....
Re: Nature's Rest Sea Breeze - sillymom
Oct 30, 2007 6:38 AM
Hi Sleepsound,

I am in ownership of a Four Seasons all latex bed, also made by Spring Air.  My hubby and I have been sleeping on this for a couple of weeks and so far, I feel like I have not slept this well since I was a youngster. I have arthritis in my shoulders hips and knees, so a soft sleeping surface is important. My hubby is 6'4" tall and over 200 lbs. He needs his strong back for work, so good support is important to him. This mattress seems to be doing us both good. We tried tempur-pedic (disaster) as well as two other latex models from Dormia. I don't know how this will work out in the long haul, but for the last couple of weeks it has been great.

One thing I want to touch on is the poor reviews from so many folks about Spring Air...

Re: PU/Latex/Memory Foam Mattress - steve2u
Oct 29, 2007 4:48 AM
Thanks for your input. The ComforPedic mattress definitely wasn't too soft or too hot when comparing it to the Tempurdic - it was pretty firm. It doesn't make sense to me since ILD is ILD - there shouldn't be a variance like one companies medium to another companies firm. The sales person did claim that ComforPedics memory foam layer breathes better than Temperpdic...and it did seem like it after laying on both for about 30 minutes on each. That being said, I still think I would be better off taking the advise of the people on this forum who have slept on foam. I need to do something pretty quick to alleviate this lower back pain - I'm now sleeping along the foot of my king sized Sealy Fenway from Costco since my normal spot has sunk in, but not the 1.5" needed for the warranty....

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