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Re: FBM 4lb vs 5lb - jimsocal
Jan 19, 2012 4:00 PM
I agree that memory foam seems too non-supportive for me and I've tried 2, 3, 4 and 5 lb varieties.

What I am doing right now - and have done before - is to add a 1" piece of memory foam (in my case, 5lb) - about 6" wide - across my lumbar region under the top layer or even under a couple layers. This adds a little support. This is what Simmons and Sealy have done on some newer mattresses, more or less.

I would definitely go with the higher poundage of MF if you're going to try it as a complete layer. 

I always find that it feels good for a few nights, a week or a few weeks, and then my lower back starts to hurt. But millions of Tempurpedic customers can't be all wrong! (Or can they? ;-D ) I...

Re: Zoning in the core or in top layer? - jimsocal
Jan 19, 2012 3:56 PM
Usually the zoning is in the top layer. Some manufacturers like Simmons and Sealy now put a firmer lumbar area or an added piece of foam in the lumbar area. Again, my advice is to just get a firm mattress with good foam (preferably latex) and good springs if you are getting springs, and then add your own topper. You can add your own zoned latex topper or just latex of various ILD's. I have tried zoning and it has not worked that well for me but it might work for some. Add your own by putting a zoned topper if you want to try it, is my advice.

 

SallySmiles wrote:

I am seeing variations in the zoning on latex mattresses and am curious which is better.  Several brands use a seven inch core that is zoned for pressure and they top...
Re: Latex Mattress - Sall
Jan 22, 2012 3:01 PM
No, it doesn't work like that.  Not sure I understand your logic but maybe it's me.  As far as the vzone from Flobeds, the vzone layer has velcro holding the strips together in the zoned layer and then it is covered by the soft convoluted layer.  You don't notice any separation of the layers or sections of the vzone.  Compression resulting in sag will happen when the poly foam layersor any layers don't spring back and stay compressed and give no support remaining compressed.  Flobeds latex and Sleepez latex provide support and push back and shouldn't stay compressed....thus the advantage of latex.   I believe memory foam springs back more slowly and generally, will give less support.  Now the different softnesses of latex (lower ILD numbers) will compress more giving more softness and less support than higher ILD numbers (which are more firm) so there is a trade off.  I hope...
Re: Anyone tried the Simmons BeautyRest Pemberton Plush (non PT?) - DoreenA
Jan 27, 2012 6:45 PM
I don't think all new mattresses have heat issues. Mine is "firm" and not warm so I think the extra foam in the "Plush" type of mattress may be what's heating you up. Since you say the bed is comfortable and doesn't need any thick toppers, I agree a  wool mattress pad may be the answer....
Re: Anyone tried the Simmons BeautyRest Pemberton Plush (non PT?) - Boopboopadoop
Jan 27, 2012 4:36 PM
Thanks to the two posters who replied so far.  I really appreciate the advice about sheets and all the other comments.

Why the "avoid Macy's" comment?  I have heard several comments like this.  So far, our experience with Macy's has been ok.  But I am nervous.

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Anyone tried the Simmons BeautyRest Pemberton Plush (non PT?) - Boopboopadoop
Jan 27, 2012 10:55 AM
Hi friends,

Over the last 3 months, have been on this forum more than I ever wanted to be.  Have experienced a long, painful (and expensive) Mattress Buying saga which I won't recount here.  Much of the story has already been told in my previous posts.

Briefly, we just returned a Stearns and Foster Pillowtop (from Sleep Trainwreck)...mostly because the Pillowtop was too mushy (learned our lesson) and the bed was too warm.  The too warm part is more of a problem for me, but my boyfriend also thought it was too warm.  So even when we adjusted to the mushy yet comfy pillowtop (which we called "The Mosh Pit"), we knew we had to get something else.

After endless shopping and nonstop research, we finally settled on a Beauty Rest "Pemberton Plush" model at Macy's.  Would have preferred one of the "cooling" Serta...

Re: Anyone tried the Simmons BeautyRest Pemberton Plush (non PT?) - megalops
Jan 27, 2012 2:34 PM
I too have done a ton of research here too, and also do not like a bed that sleeps warm. I'm passing this advice to you strictly from the plethora of information I've been reading here, not by personal experience. So here goes:

What's causing the bed to retain heat is the petroleum based sythetic foams used in the top layers of the bed. Recommendations given to others in the past are to add natural materials between you and the synthetic stuff. Natural materials unfortunately are not inexpensive. Most recommend a thick wool topper, a latex topper, or both.

Lower threadcount sheets are also a great idea. Get percales if you can afford them. Because every thread is woven over every other thread, these breath much better than sateens. I'd also recommend 100% cotton. I just picked up a king sized set of Percales which were...

Re: The "S" brands? - SallySmiles
Jan 20, 2012 2:57 AM
Without taking up space with too much copying - I'm thrilled to have this much information and get this going

megalops, I agree with you and having been researching this for months I totally agree.  I still like the FloBeds, but when I go testing mattresses I can take my list and hopefully get some idea of price comparison for what is inside.  A few on my short list are similar.

 

This is why I am looking at latex mattresses - - NOT the S brands and this is why I was surprosed when i discovered that S&F had a latex that has cashmere in the cover etc/  I'm apparently more tired than I thought.   Yes I am aware that S&F is owned by Sealy - hard not too if searching on the web, but at least they give you a content list.   

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Re: The "S" brands? - wideawake
Jan 20, 2012 2:26 PM
Jim

 You suggest that we buy a simmons non pillow top mattress and then add latex toppers . It seems to me that if the underlying structure of the mattresses is collapsable because it is composed of polyeurethane , then won't the mattress soon sag even with the latex toppers ?

You can put lipstick on a pig....

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Re: Anyone tried the Simmons BeautyRest Pemberton Plush (non PT?) - leland
Jan 27, 2012 12:29 PM
I'm about to buy the firm version of it (although still debating between Walmart foam, Ikea latex and this). Likely will buy the equivalent from one of the discounters to avoid a trip to Macy's.

I've done a decent bit of research and the bed appears solid enough for my time horizon of use (~5 years). I prefer putting extra padding on myself if required so firm is the way to go for me.

Temperature-wise, there's less foam in the mattress so you shouldn't have issues. I'm always warm and slept on the predecessor of this bed in cool comfort for years.

That said, I honestly don't have much of a view for how life changes on a $500 mattress versus a $5000 one - they both feel fine to me.

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