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Re: Coil springs - haysdb
Sep 20, 2007 6:14 PMMattresses (Wikipedia entry)
Sep 20, 2007 6:14 PM
Mattresses (Wikipedia entry)
Types of coils
There are four different types of mattress coils:
- Bonnell coils are the oldest and most common. First adapted from buggy seat springs of the 19th century, they are still prevalent in less expensive mattresses. Bonnell coils are hourglass-shaped, and the ends of the wire are knotted or wrapped around the top and bottom circular portion of the coil and self-tied.
- Marshall coils, also called "pocketed coils," are each wrapped in a fabric encasement and usually are tempered, or in the case of the Simmons Beautyrest carbon magnesium is added. Some manufacturers pre-compress these coils, which makes the mattress firmer and allows for motion separation between the sides of the bed.
- Offset coils are designed to hinge, thus conforming to body shape. They are very sturdy,...
Re: Coil springs - haysdb
Sep 20, 2007 5:48 PM
Sep 20, 2007 5:48 PM
Going to the Mattresses - How to cut through the marketing gimmicks of Sealy, Serta, and the rest.
Here's a fun game I play. First, I walk into a mattress store and ask what's on sale. Then, I throw my hands in the air and shout along with the salesman, "EVERYTHING'S ON SALE!!!!" Oh how we laugh, the salesman and I. And while he's still chuckling, I turn around and walk out, because I fricking hate mattress salesmen.
Is there a more maddening industry? They confuse us with silly product names (the Sealy Posturepedic Crown Jewel Fletcher Ultra Plush Pillowtop or the Sealy Posturepedic Crown Jewel Brookmere Plush?). They flummox us with bogus science ("pocketed coils"? "Microtek foundations"? "Fiberlux"?). And they weigh us down with useless features (silk damask ticking?). It's like buying a used car, and almost as expensive—I've seen mattresses going...
Is there a more maddening industry? They confuse us with silly product names (the Sealy Posturepedic Crown Jewel Fletcher Ultra Plush Pillowtop or the Sealy Posturepedic Crown Jewel Brookmere Plush?). They flummox us with bogus science ("pocketed coils"? "Microtek foundations"? "Fiberlux"?). And they weigh us down with useless features (silk damask ticking?). It's like buying a used car, and almost as expensive—I've seen mattresses going...
Re: Coil springs - haysdb
Sep 20, 2007 5:10 PM
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Innerspring mattresses have wire coils as the support structure. An innerspring mattress has a strong border wire attached to the perimeter of the coils. The border wire supports the coils, helping to retain shape and reduce sagging. The edge is reinforced with specially shaped springs or foam to support the sleep surface right to the edge, to help prevent 'rollout' and edge breakdown. The upholstery is separated from the innerspring system by an insulator, a tough padding, wire or netting layer that prevents the upholstery from sinking into the coils.
Open Coil or Bonnell Coil: These are the oldest and most commonly used. They were adapted from a design used in buggy seats in the 19th Century. This hourglass-shaped wire coil is joined to adjacent coils by small wire spirals called helicals. The open coil design provides good...
Open Coil or Bonnell Coil: These are the oldest and most commonly used. They were adapted from a design used in buggy seats in the 19th Century. This hourglass-shaped wire coil is joined to adjacent coils by small wire spirals called helicals. The open coil design provides good...
Re: Wading through the latex info... (and avoiding a kit) - D3Fi
Sep 20, 2007 1:38 AM
Sep 20, 2007 1:38 AM
wildintheory wrote:
Initially I was going to go with SleepEZ also due to cost. I am so, so glad I didn't though as this was our first venture into latex and we are already on our 2nd core exchange and to be quite honest, we ar enot even sure we are going to keep it...
I was wondering about this. I've been trying to decide between Sleep-Ez and Flobeds. After a lot of reading, it seems like the Flobeds are, out of the box, softer because of the convoluted topper, even if you order a medium/firm/extra firm combo. I'm leaning towards Sleep-Ez, for purely cost reasons, but I'm a little worried that my choice of medium/firm/extra firm will be a little to firm for us. I really love the idea of a bed kit but I can understand people's hesitation because there is a lot to consider/ choice.
Initially I was going to go with SleepEZ also due to cost. I am so, so glad I didn't though as this was our first venture into latex and we are already on our 2nd core exchange and to be quite honest, we ar enot even sure we are going to keep it...
Re: pocketed springs - D3Fi
Sep 17, 2007 8:21 PM
Sep 17, 2007 8:21 PM
ecd90651 wrote:
There were some complaints about Simmons' coils doing just that over time - poking out through the sides of the mattress due to the design of the pocketed coils. If the Simmons salesman is lurking about though, he'll tell you I'm heading up against a conspiracy against Simmons to further the brand I sell. Oh wait, I don't sell mattresses - I build/repair PCs and code websites. Oh well, there goes that conspiracy theory. :D...
I wonder how they keep the springs from going wonky over time since some space is left for possible lateral movement.
There were some complaints about Simmons' coils doing just that over time - poking out through the sides of the mattress due to the design of the pocketed coils. If the Simmons salesman is lurking about though, he'll tell you I'm heading up against a conspiracy against Simmons to further the brand I sell. Oh wait, I don't sell mattresses - I build/repair PCs and code websites. Oh well, there goes that conspiracy theory. :D...
Re: Has anyone bought the Westin Heavenly mattress or Simmons Dakar Pillowtop Classic? (its clone) - BeddyBye
Sep 18, 2007 10:45 AM
Sep 18, 2007 10:45 AM
I tried the featherbed and wasn't thrilled with the crunchy feel. But, I'm going to try a down alternative fiberbed. I just ordered this from Costco online: Ultimate Cuddle Bed Plus. I can return it in the store if need be. It will be here tomorrow;Also, I'm looking at ordering the 300 threadcount microgel puffball fiber bed from Walmart. It can be delivered free to the store. I felt one almost identical over at Bed, Bath and Beyond for a lot more money. My biggest concern about any of these is that they won't be so plush that my back will be sore from sinking in too far. On the other hand, it might have an entirely different feel than the latex toppers which hurt my back. So, we'll seeI <BR><BR> obxgal wrote:
I read that they use fluffy toppers on non-pillowtop mattresses in their hotels, like feather...
Re: Has anyone bought the Westin Heavenly mattress or Simmons Dakar Pillowtop Classic? (its clone) - BeddyBye
Sep 16, 2007 1:01 PM
Sep 16, 2007 1:01 PM
Now this is a SMALL world!! I know Vicky VERY well! We even met in NY back in 2002! We both also have Cotons, hence the reason my little dog and I flew out for a big Coton party. We belong to another list and she's been telling us all about her mattress adventures. Then my SIL mentioned sleeping on one. I had remembered the one we slept in a few years back. It really did feel "heavenly". But, they all do in a hotel for a night or two. My concern with those cozy mattresses are the longevity in my HOME over a course of time. I mentioned this to Vicky, but she didn't care if it wore out, as long as it felt good NOW. I'm almost getting to that point! LOL BUT, the difference between the two of us: $$$$$$$$. I have less of it to spend...
Re: Wading through the latex info... (and avoiding a kit) - blaupunk
Sep 21, 2007 10:54 AM
Sep 21, 2007 10:54 AM
D3Fi wrote:
If you had it to do over again, would you go with one of the other mattresses?...
On the other point ... We initially got a Medium-Firm-Firm and it was very, very soft in our opinion. I am 6'1" and 170 lbs btw and I will avoid posting my wife's height/weight again because a man can only get away with these things once in a great while. ;-) As a comparison, before we arrived at latex we tried a Simmons World Class Plush-Firm (900 coils or so w/ a "Plush-Firm" Euro Top) and a Tempurpedic Rhapsody. At my height/weight (and the wife's) both of those supported us better than our initial latex configuration (read: no hammocking vs. severe hammocking w/ the latex config we initially selected).
If you had it to do over again, would you go with one of the other mattresses?...
Re: Has anyone bought the Westin Heavenly mattress or Simmons Dakar Pillowtop Classic? (its clone) - obxgal
Sep 18, 2007 9:08 AM
Sep 18, 2007 9:08 AM
I read that they use fluffy toppers on non-pillowtop mattresses in their hotels, like feather down or down alternative. I've never been to one or tried the bed, I was looking at them online. I never read reviews from anyone who has had their bed for a while, but a lot of raves from people who just got them. I also noticed some discount coupons, which may have expired, not sure. I'll have to look into this further. ...
Any reviews on Simmons Beautyrest Classic & Spring Air Comfort Flex - dana2007
Sep 16, 2007 10:12 PM
Sep 16, 2007 10:12 PM
Hi ! We are newly weds and have been going crazy with bed-mattress hunt!!! Finally decided on a cal king sleigh bed and are now trying to decide a mattress. (WE like to have a balance between firm & soft so I guess it will be firm-plush type).
WE saw one at Sleep train: Simmons Beautyrest Classic in firm..design called Madrid which under clerance we are getting for $1200 for a Cal King. Are their any users who could help us?
Our Other choice is at JC Penny for a Spring Air: Comfortflex-Firm called Capri for $999
Any views welcome :)...
WE saw one at Sleep train: Simmons Beautyrest Classic in firm..design called Madrid which under clerance we are getting for $1200 for a Cal King. Are their any users who could help us?
Our Other choice is at JC Penny for a Spring Air: Comfortflex-Firm called Capri for $999
Any views welcome :)...