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Dec 7, 2010 7:05 PM
In early 2009, went to the SAT bed but didn't like it.
Later in 2009, went to the FloBed which is what I have now. I awake now every morning with moderate to severe tightness in the sacral area and laterally on both sides of my lower back. I'm on a med over firm over firm grouping of layers. Additionally, I tend to sleep in the middle of the bed and move around a bit, and I feel the separation between the two sides of the bed and it is annoying. I ham seriously questioning staying with the FloBed and at times am ready to throw it away....the pain is approaching...
Dec 19, 2010 2:33 PM
The acella-flex is an HR foam from Legget and Platt urethane division and is one of many what are called HR (high resiliency) poly foams that are being produced by the dozens of foam manufacturers around the world. In general they are much better than other polyfoams but this too depends on how they are manufactured and the actual chemicals used to make them. They can be made quite dense and yet very soft at the same time and some of them have properties similar to latex.
...Dec 19, 2010 12:15 PM
Your comments about not wanting to "sink in" and sleeping hot pretty much rule out using memory foam as a top layer in a mattress.
The Madison only has 2" latex so it needs a layer underneath that is not quite as firm to act as part of the comfort layer. It's sort of a compromise and given the feedback about the acella-flex not "coming back", I would tend to avoid it. Poly doesn't usually do well when it's compressed for a long period of time and these have almost certainly been shipped compressed from China where Classic brands has a factory.
I took some time last night to "analyze" the construction of the greenhurst and it is surprisingly well...
Dec 17, 2010 7:59 PM
Phoenix
http://www.longsbedding.com/mattressesandboxsprings.html Manufacturer and Retailer. They tend towards higher end mattresses but it may be worth a call to see what they have in your budget.
http://www.lemoynesleeper.com/locations.html Regional Manufacturer. Not sure if any of these are close to you but if they are they would be a very good place to check out.
http://www.midwoodmattress.com/index.html Not clear if they make their own (sounds like it) but they seem to be a place worth checking out.
http://www.sleepmattress.com/contact_us.html Manufacturer. Carries mattresses in your range.
http://www.comfortbeddinginc.com/contact.asp Manufacturer. Carries a wide range
http://www.dixiefoam.com/mattresses.htm#latex Manufacturer. Has some good value Latex and Poly options
http://www.bemco.com/northeast.html Manufacturer (made by Sleepmaster). May be worth calling to see if there are retail...
Dec 8, 2010 3:32 PM
6 + 2 constructions tend to be less expensive because they have less latex in them (8")
3 x 3 constructions are a little more partly because they have more latex (9") and partly because a 3" layer is a 6" core cut in half. Having said that though, many of the 6 + 2 constructions also have 2 x 3" layers as their core rather than a single 6" core so then the material difference in prices would be just the single inch more material.
Some of the 3" layers in blended Talalay are actually 2.8" (a 5.6" core cut in half) but since they are still a core cut in half they are usually the same price as 3". This is because Latex International...
Dec 7, 2010 7:34 PM
It sounds to me like you are a fairly "wild" sleeper and the...
Dec 16, 2010 5:38 AM
Once again, thanks for your time, Phoenix.
I checked the Brick's invoice and they offer a 'Sleep Better Comfort Guarantee': " a one-time reselection for 90 days from the date of delivery. This offer is extended to 180 days with a matt pad." So, I'm considering one of the following:
1. Buy the Springwall plus a good topper as you suggested (The Sertapedic is the same price as the Springwall, but I'd have to ask about the amount of polyfoam in it: http://www1.thebrick.com/brickb2c/jsp/catalog/product.jsp?id=CELITEQPK&navAction=jump&navCount=5). This option seems practical and economical. I might try a Natura latex topper; I have one of their latex pillows, which I find very comfy and supportive.
2. Do some research this time (!) and try out the Tempur-Pedic RythmicNC: http://www1.thebrick.com/brickb2c/jsp/catalog/product.jsp?id=RHYTHMQPK&navAction=jump&navCount=18
It's the only full latex mattress offered by the Brick plus it has the wool liner...
Dec 19, 2010 2:58 PM
Thanks again. I think I'll stick w/ the Sealy Greenhurst Firm as it should hold up quite well and I'll just consider the extra cost to be an 'insurance policy', lol.
I know that I'll have to wait until I sleep on it for a few weeks before deciding if I need a topper, and what I actually need it for. However, I'm pretty sure I'll get some type of topper and I'd like to continue my research. My guess is that I'll need a bit of 'pressure relief' along with a bit of support under my lumbar region. If I wanted to combine a latex topper (say 1" of Talatech) with a memory foam product (say 1" of Celsion or 1.5" of Aerus, which is quite inexpensive), would I get the benefits of the viscous property of the MF if I put it under...
Dec 19, 2010 5:08 AM
Thanks for the replies and links (and also for posting your 'Pro's and Con's' thread which I read). I had called OK mattress yesterday and the person I spoke to said they do not have NuForm toppers, though from their website it looks like they took some of the exact wording from the NuForm info at LI). He then tried to sell me a latex topper. I'll call back on Monday and dig a little deeper. I had seen the Beloit site earlier today but I didn't get a chance to call. They definitely use NuForm in some of their mattresses, so I'll call them Monday. I'll ask about why they use it, and how, and try to get some info on density/ILD. If NuForm sounds great and it isn't too expensive, maybe I'll try to get them to sell me a topper.
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Dec 18, 2010 12:12 PM
1) You sleep IN a memory foam topper because memory foam is viscous and thus ‘flows’ whereas you sleep ON a Latex topper because it compresses underneath you rather than ‘flows’ away from body pressure.
2) Memory foam will sleep ‘hotter’ than Latex; though new types of memory foam such as Foamex’ Aerus will be ‘cooler’ than standard memory foam, and Latex International’s Celsion will maintain a consistent body temperature.
3) If the memory foam is too soft, it won’t provide much, if any, support (e.g., you bottom out). If a Latex foam is too hard/resilient, it might not alleviate pressure points.
I’ve...