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AN ANSWER to What's the best mattress? - jimsocal
Aug 30, 2009 5:18 PM
Which mattress should I buy?

My "mattress resume'" is printed below following the bulk of this message. I feel pretty qualified to give this advice, but of course, take it with a grain of salt. This is just my opinion, in the end. But it is based on many other people's experiences as well as my own,and it gives you some info that you can use to make your own decision.

This is surely not "DEFINITIVE" and I hope others who've been here on this forum awhile and experimented with foams and mattress springs will add their 2 cents. But I write this because I sincerely believe it will help the average mattress buyer.

SO HERE IS MY RECOMMENDATION TO MATTRESS BUYERS:

1) Buy the kind...
Re: Not sure this DIY foam set-up is working... - jimsocal
Aug 28, 2009 7:19 PM
Electracat, you sound like you have the EXACT problem I have had with my foam experiments for the past year or so. My solution - though not sure it will work - was to buy the Englander mattress and then put my own foam on top of it. I have not even tried it yet, just got it delivered today and will probably wait a short while (not sure how long) before cutting it open for an emergency cheap-foam-ectomy!

But maybe you could do what we do:
My wife and I put our twin mattresses side by side, which is basically a KING when they're put together. That eliminates the motion transfer problem. She's a "restless leg" person and I'm a bad back person and light sleeper so even though we did not want to sleep in seperate beds, this was the only way we could sleep. (mostly me) The only drawback...
Re: Sealy Spring Free Weybridge VS Latex International DIY products - jimsocal
Aug 27, 2009 3:50 PM
george wrote:
Like many of you, I've come here looking to get the most out of the $1000 - $2000 I'm about to spend on a bed for me and my wife. We currently have a innerspring plush pillow top, and it's not working out for us - both of us are getting back pain while sleeping and then after we wake up. We decided that we want a firmer bed, and I've been looking at Latex beds. I went to a local store, and tried out the three Sealy Spring Free beds they have, and two of them were way too soft while the Weybridge was perfect. It was $1899 after $400 rebate, so it's definately pricey, especially considering I went to the Original Mattress Factory and found an innerspring I liked for $670. Nevertheless, I like the idea of a...
Re: Dare I say that most mattress sales people are less than good at their job? New buyers: what to expect in your mattress quest - jimsocal
Aug 27, 2009 3:08 PM
mattmanu wrote:
My concern is how do you know that it has a 12 1/2 ga innerspring? I work in the industry, and I may be wrong but I don't know any spring manufacture making a 12 1/2 ga in any type of unit.

That's a reasonable question. At some point, when gathering information, if you hear the same thing a number of times, from different people, you tend to believe it. Could it be a lie told again and again? Yes, but I would think that if Englander SAYS it's a 12.5 then it must be or else they could have a lawsuit on their hands.

When I first heard about Englander, about 7 years ago, I was told by a couple different Englander stores that the springs were 12.5 gauge and I'm pretty sure at that time I called Englander company as well and was told the same...
Re: Sealy Spring Free Weybridge VS Latex International DIY products - Sabra
Aug 28, 2009 7:19 AM
george wrote:
Do you remember what the comfort level (and name if you remember) of your Sealy Springfree bed was?  The Weybridge (also know as Brasswood Firm at US-Mattress) is 3.5, and the Garden Vine Plush (US Mattress name) is a 5.0.  After trying out the Garden Vine Plush at a local store it seems like a good firmness level and it is also cheaper than the Brasswood.  According to the specs the Brasswood has an extra layer of latex instead of the cheaper foam, and that's why it's more expensive and firmer too.  The Garden Vine Plush has a layer of foam, is softer and cheaper too.  Turn the Garden Vine Plush over and you have the same as the Brasswood Firm (at least that's what CC-Mattress is saying on the Blog).</p><p>So....that's why I am wondering what the comfort level of your bed is - that will tell...
Re: Sealy Spring Free Weybridge VS Latex International DIY products - bear
Aug 27, 2009 3:47 PM
Hi George, I don't know anything about Sealy Spring Free but I did go the DIY route fromFBM. I do believe the odds are, it is more likely that one will screw up than be able to get a DIY mattress right the first time. Read "Sleep EZ Latex Vs Therapedic Latex Mattress" and follow ups, written by Steve47. Sounds much like the situation you are in. If you can, jack those folks down on price then compare. I looked at a Rocky Mountian Latex Mattress that I liked, it was priced around $1300 for Queen Mattress and Foundation. I saw here that someone bought that mattress and was very pleased with it. They paid around $780 for the mattress only. That's about what I have in my DIY mattress from FBM. I still am working on trying to get mine where I can sleep on it. "TOO FIRM"....
Re: Sealy Spring Free Weybridge VS Latex International DIY products - eagle2
Aug 27, 2009 3:07 PM
I hope no one thinks me rude or unmannerly regarding this post. As I do not have anything to contribute to the actual original posters query. But I just wanted to express myself about this subject of latex mattresses as I have been deep into this for the last month or so, and you all know what I mean, night and day seven days a week.

I started out looking at Stearns and Foster's "natural latex" mattresses. I have found a good salesman and was getting close to "pulling the trigger" when I discovered this website and the many others that flowed from it.

From what I have been able to ascertain it is almost impossible to find out what the big three "S" manufactures are putting in their beds. And I'm not talking about all of this green, organic, off gassing, and other, back to nature movement, buzzwords. What I'm talking...
Re: Bed that won't "lump" in the middle - Alexander
Aug 31, 2009 10:35 AM
Fender,

The lump you're describing could be something that is often referred to as a "King Bump". It's caused by the difference in box support between the edges of the King boxes and the centers. Since kings (Or California King) mattresses use two edge reinforced boxes the support is naturally sturdier where the boxes meet in the middle of the bed than it is halfway between the middle and the edge. I'd be willing to bet that if you looked the "lump" coincides with the point where the two boxes meet.

You have several options here:

1) Sealy's warranty does cover this problem if it has created a difference in bed height greater than 1.5" from the highest point of the lump to the lowest (non-button) point of your deepest impression. Sealy's warranty is 10 years non-prorated, non-fixit. (You should more or less get a comparable mattress or even the money you paid...

Re: Sealy Spring Free Weybridge VS Latex International DIY products - Alexander
Aug 31, 2009 10:20 AM
I can answer one of your questions definitively.

Sealy Springfree is about the only manufacturer that does not buy their cores from LI.

So far as beds only being "part" latex this depends on the mattress. Ask for something with a Talalay Core and Talalay top. You can buy latex beds with Poly cores but these are generally the "budget" versions. A queen latex bed should run you at least $2000 for the set and more likely closer to $2500. If it doesn't, I'd ask why. There's a lot less margin variance in the industry than people think and if one bed is significantly less than another it's almost always not because it's a "better deal" but because it's made more cheaply.

-Alex...

Re: Dare I say that most mattress sales people are less than good at their job? New buyers: what to expect in your mattress quest - Alexander
Aug 31, 2009 10:08 AM
Jim,

The reason your bed was made by a manufacturer other than the name under which you bought it is because you went for a mattress with the cheap Bonnell coil instead of a major manufacturer's major coil system. Most manufacturers will outsource those lower end products and only produce their actual coils themselves. This is the difference between a bed that says Sealy and a bed that says Sealy Posturpedic.

While there may not be an excuse for the lack of customer service you received in your search for a bed, the lack of knowledge doesn't surprise me. Remember, when you make a mattress purchase you're not only paying for the steel, foams, and upholstery, you're also paying for personal training, spec materials, and vendor support. When you're shopping the rock bottom lowend (which a $400 queen mattress is) one of the first things the vendor cuts is retail support....

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