Just ordered Sleepez 10000....
Dec 15, 2007 12:44 PM
Joined: Nov 15, 2007
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Ok, I bit the bullet and ordered the SleepEZ 10000 and returned the Costco Comfortluxe.

I am a bit nervous about ordering a mattress without having tried it!  :)  However, what I really liked was Shawn even suggested I spend LESS and buy the 8500 model because "you just don't use more than 5.6/6" of foam." He said that until the mid-80s all the latex mattresses were just 6", but since then people think more is better. I ended up choosing the 10000 because of bed sheet fiting, Shawn said that sheets can be a bit of a pain to get for the thinner mattresses nowadays (Sheets are made for huge beds now)

So despite my nervousness on buying something sight unseen, I just keep telling myself all the wonderful reviews I have read here about the service level with Sleepez means it should be ok! :) (i hope :) ).
This message was modified Dec 15, 2007 by novahelp
Re: Just ordered Sleepez 10000....
Reply #51 Feb 9, 2008 10:42 AM
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mattressmom wrote:
Novahelp, what exactly is uncomfortable? As a side sleeper, do you have problems with your hips or shoulders? It might help people here advise you better if they know exactly what is going on.

Best of luck to you. I know you've been working on this for a long time. I hope you are able to find a solution that works.

Thank you for your supportive and kind reply.  I really am not trying to be a pest. I am just so disappointed and frustrated after being so excited about splurging a lot of money (well to me anyway) on a luxury item.

I am a side sleeper, and it is my hips are what need a soft support to prevent soreness -- this is why I can't use the Sleepez included mattress case, the wool just hurts my hips.

I think the problem is that I can't get the right combination of soft, firm, non-bouncy, and thick so i don't bottom out in the kit.  The closest I got was Medium-Firm-Soft, but as I said, it was too thin a mattress for my body. 

On top of that, my 2 month trial window is fast approaching and I have to get this figured out before then...
Re: Just ordered Sleepez 10000....
Reply #52 Feb 9, 2008 11:01 AM
Location: Wisconsin
Joined: Dec 28, 2007
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What do you have the mattress on? Is is a solid platform?

It might sound counterintuitive, but I wonder if two layers of medium over firm or even medium over medium on a solid platform would work. The solid platform at the bottom would be the extra firm layer. Maybe you have TOO MUCH latex under you.

I'm a side sleeper and found the Dunlop +/- 30 in the top layer to work for everyone in our family of side sleepers - even though we are different sizes. I recently played around with a cheap 1" layer of Talalay doubled over with a thick wool topper on top of the whole thing. (see the Brylane Latex Topper thread) I liked the extra cush for my hips but it didn't work for my husband.

As suggested above, maybe you need a good solid base with a one or two inch topper for your hips to sink into. That's pretty much the SleepEZ 8500 configuration. I wonder if Shawn could send you a layer of soft DUNLOP for your top layer.

You are right, you'll have to work this out soon.
Re: Just ordered Sleepez 10000....
Reply #53 Feb 9, 2008 11:15 AM
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mattressmom wrote:
What do you have the mattress on? Is is a solid platform?

It might sound counterintuitive, but I wonder if two layers of medium over firm or even medium over medium on a solid platform would work. The solid platform at the bottom would be the extra firm layer. Maybe you have TOO MUCH latex under you.

I'm a side sleeper and found the Dunlop +/- 30 in the top layer to work for everyone in our family of side sleepers - even though we are different sizes. I recently played around with a cheap 1" layer of Talalay doubled over with a thick wool topper on top of the whole thing. (see the Brylane Latex Topper thread) I liked the extra cush for my hips but it didn't work for my husband.

As suggested above, maybe you need a good solid base with a one or two inch topper for your hips to sink into. That's pretty much the SleepEZ 8500 configuration. I wonder if Shawn could send you a layer of soft DUNLOP for your top layer.

You are right, you'll have to work this out soon.

The layers are actually on the floor. I didn't buy a platform for it yet because I wanted to be sure I would keep it. 

At this point, lol, I have tried so many combination I just can't tell anymore what I like. :)
Re: Just ordered Sleepez 10000....
Reply #54 Feb 9, 2008 11:41 AM
Location: Wisconsin
Joined: Dec 28, 2007
Points: 83
novahelp wrote:
The layers are actually on the floor. I didn't buy a platform for it yet because I wanted to be sure I would keep it.  <BR><BR>At this point, lol, I have tried so many combination I just can't tell anymore what I like. :)

It wouldn't hurt to try two layers for a night or two. It won't cost anything. It always takes my husband two or three nights to get used to a new configuration.

Or maybe this just isn't going to work for you and you'll have to cut your losses and move on. If it's any consolation, this thread helped convince me to go with Dunlop and a non-SleepEZ manufacturer. I didn't like the sound of your problems with the cover. Not much help for you but it did help us.

For the kids we got plain old medium six inch cores of Dunlop latex with simple covers. Much cheaper than the fancier alternatives and seem just as comfortable as our expensive mattress. The Dunlop is denser at the bottom than the top so it is sort layered without all the layers. Much simpler and more straight forward IF it works for you. The Dunlop isn't as wiggly. See the Talalay vs. Dunlop threads.

We used a cheap velour cover from eBay for my son's mattress. Works great. Comes in lots of sizes. Around $30 plus shipping - depending on the size.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ZIPPERED-VELOURCOVER-for-10-QUEEN-MEMORY-FOAM-MATTRESS_W0QQitemZ110220660299QQihZ001QQcategoryZ20479QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Re: Just ordered Sleepez 10000....
Reply #55 Feb 9, 2008 1:58 PM
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mattressmom wrote:
It wouldn't hurt to try two layers for a night or two. It won't cost anything. It always takes my husband two or three nights to get used to a new configuration.

Or maybe this just isn't going to work for you and you'll have to cut your losses and move on. If it's any consolation, this thread helped convince me to go with Dunlop and a non-SleepEZ manufacturer. I didn't like the sound of your problems with the cover. Not much help for you but it did help us.

For the kids we got plain old medium six inch cores of Dunlop latex with simple covers. Much cheaper than the fancier alternatives and seem just as comfortable as our expensive mattress. The Dunlop is denser at the bottom than the top so it is sort layered without all the layers. Much simpler and more straight forward IF it works for you. The Dunlop isn't as wiggly. See the Talalay vs. Dunlop threads.

We used a cheap velour cover from eBay for my son's mattress. Works great. Comes in lots of sizes. Around $30 plus shipping - depending on the size.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ZIPPERED-VELOURCOVER-for-10-QUEEN-MEMORY-FOAM-MATTRESS_W0QQitemZ110220660299QQihZ001QQcategoryZ20479QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I am going to go back and try an old configuration because I think it was not used to latex yet.

Don't let me being crazy :) dissuade anyone from trying Sleepez, they really are a great company. I am just adjusting I think

Spoke to Sean. I am going to go try an original configuration without their cover and see how it is.

Soft
Medium
Firm

Wish me luck! :)
Re: Just ordered Sleepez 10000....
Reply #56 Feb 9, 2008 2:34 PM
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Novahelp, what about trying the Brylane topper we are all ordering? It is only one inch thick and maybe that's all the cushion you need for your hips. It is not so thick that you negate the support of the firmer layers beneath.

I am also a side sleeper and on too firm a surface my hips go numb, but when I tried our 3 inch PU camping foam on top of the firm mattress, while it relieved the pressure points in my hips, itt allowed my spine to sink in too much and I was waking up with lower back pain.

3 inches for your soft layer is too much in my opinion. If you can get your support layers right I think one or two inches of “cush” on top is all you need. Would Sean send you a 2 inch or 1.5 inch soft layer to try instead of the standard 3 inch? When I talked to him, he said he could get a 1.5 inch topper for me if I wanted.

Good luck – I know what it’s like to be exhausted yet dread going to bed at the same time...
Re: Just ordered Sleepez 10000....
Reply #57 Feb 9, 2008 2:36 PM
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Novahelp, In my opinion a 2.8 or 3" of soft latex layer is usally too soft and to get the benefits of latex and have firm support and softness on your pressure points and not pushing back against you, I would go with a less thick topper (1" or 1.5" or 2.0") in the firmness you like (it sounds like that is soft) and firmer layers underneath. This is what works best for me and I am very comfortable. I could not sleep on such a thick soft latex core or  a very firm latex core without a soft topper.  I am more comfortable than I was with a conventional mattress.
Re: Just ordered Sleepez 10000....
Reply #58 Feb 9, 2008 4:25 PM
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"After all the cheerleading in this forum on how great latex is, returning this thing is going to cost me $400."

The above statement about cheerleading is not true. It also appeared to be an attempt to blame others for your predicament. There is a lot of valuable information on this forum, but it's fairly useless if you don't digest it all it all before acting. $348 restocking? You paid $2300 for a SleepEz mattress?

Moving forward: I returned my 3 memoryfoam.com toppers after 30 days (with no restocking and no charge for original free shipping) when it didn't work. I'm working on creating a zoned mattress, but at the moment have 2 1" cheapo Overstock toppers mated (ILD maybe 20-24), over 3" 36 ILD (actually @33) in hip area, 5" of the soft Overstock for shoulders. Everything over an old, firm, failing coil mattress. It's comfortable. Play around with what you have on hand in your remaining time. Your biggest problem may be, as others have noted, the 3" of soft foam (too thick) OR could be a nonstretch cover.
Re: Just ordered Sleepez 10000....
Reply #59 Feb 9, 2008 6:46 PM
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Points: 157
mccldwll wrote:
"After all the cheerleading in this forum on how great latex is, returning this thing is going to cost me $400."

The above statement about cheerleading is not true. It also appeared to be an attempt to blame others for your predicament. There is a lot of valuable information on this forum, but it's fairly useless if you don't digest it all it all before acting. $348 restocking? You paid $2300 for a SleepEz mattress?

Moving forward: I returned my 3 memoryfoam.com toppers after 30 days (with no restocking and no charge for original free shipping) when it didn't work. I'm working on creating a zoned mattress, but at the moment have 2 1" cheapo Overstock toppers mated (ILD maybe 20-24), over 3" 36 ILD (actually @33) in hip area, 5" of the soft Overstock for shoulders. Everything over an old, firm, failing coil mattress. It's comfortable. Play around with what you have on hand in your remaining time. Your biggest problem may be, as others have noted, the 3" of soft foam (too thick) OR could be a nonstretch cover.

Oops math error, blame it on the lack of decent sleep, so it will be 232+74+100 (likely)  = $406
Re: Just ordered Sleepez 10000....
Reply #60 Feb 9, 2008 6:52 PM
Joined: Nov 15, 2007
Points: 157
Here are my various attempts


Arrangement (top to bottom):
Soft
Medium
Firm
Result:: I like it.  The problem is that when I turn from my side or move around, I bottom out in the thing and my hip or butt hits the ground (ouch!) and i sort of rebound off it...


Arrangement (top to bottom):
Medium
Firm
x-firm
Result: Its too hard.

arrangement (top to bottom):
Soft
Medium
Firm
X-firm
Result:  I feel like I am sleeping on a rubber ball.


Tonight will try the:
soft
medium
x-firm

to see if perhaps my body can deal with it though I still seem to hit the ground a bit.
This message was modified Feb 9, 2008 by novahelp

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