Just ordered Sleepez 10000....
Dec 15, 2007 12:44 PM
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Ok, I bit the bullet and ordered the SleepEZ 10000 and returned the Costco Comfortluxe.

I am a bit nervous about ordering a mattress without having tried it!  :)  However, what I really liked was Shawn even suggested I spend LESS and buy the 8500 model because "you just don't use more than 5.6/6" of foam." He said that until the mid-80s all the latex mattresses were just 6", but since then people think more is better. I ended up choosing the 10000 because of bed sheet fiting, Shawn said that sheets can be a bit of a pain to get for the thinner mattresses nowadays (Sheets are made for huge beds now)

So despite my nervousness on buying something sight unseen, I just keep telling myself all the wonderful reviews I have read here about the service level with Sleepez means it should be ok! :) (i hope :) ).
This message was modified Dec 15, 2007 by novahelp
Re: Just ordered Sleepez 10000....
Reply #47 Feb 9, 2008 9:52 AM
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MequonJim wrote:
Side sleepers have the most trouble with latex.  Back and stomach sleepers rarely complain.  At least from my memory.

I wish I had seen this before I took this leap.  However, back sleepers can sleep on almost anything. Stomach sleepers only need a very firm surface, seriously, a floor would be fine for stomach sleeper.

Well, will call Sean again today and see what else to do. Seriously, this is just a royal pain in the butt.
My first mattress 10 years ago, walked into Sams club and picked one. It was great for 7 years and $300.
This message was modified Feb 9, 2008 by novahelp
Re: Just ordered Sleepez 10000....
Reply #48 Feb 9, 2008 9:56 AM
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novahelp wrote:
<BR><BR>Maybe I am just not a latex person... Which is not making me very happy. After all the cheerleading in this forum on how great latex is, returning this thing is going to cost me $400.<BR>


Stop whining. You were well warned that some people have trouble with latex, and almost everyone has to tweak it to get it to work. There are many posts from people (such as myself) who had to send everything back because standard layups didn't work. There are posts from people who prefer the flobeds return policy. If you ignored those warnings, you only have yourself to blame. And return shipping should be less than $100 Fed Ex ground.

However, first try medium, firm, ex firm, possibly with a polyester fill topper OR soft, firm, ex firm. Make sure cover stretches. 3 layers is plenty. MIght even try medium, firm, w/ a topper.
Re: Just ordered Sleepez 10000....
Reply #49 Feb 9, 2008 10:04 AM
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mccldwll wrote:
Stop whining. You were well warned that some people have trouble with latex, and almost everyone has to tweak it to get it to work. There are many posts from people (such as myself) who had to send everything back because standard layups didn't work. There are posts from people who prefer the flobeds return policy. If you ignored those warnings, you only have yourself to blame. And return shipping should be less than $100 Fed Ex ground.

However, first try medium, firm, ex firm, possibly with a polyester fill topper OR soft, firm, ex firm. Make sure cover stretches. 3 layers is plenty. MIght even try medium, firm, w/ a topper.

Uh, what are you smoking? Sleepez charges a 15% restocking fee, no refund on the original $75 shipping charge, and then $75 (at least) to ship all this back adds up to

$348
$75
$100

$523!!!


Otherwise, thanks for your thoughts. I will talk to Sean today and see what he suggests now. 

If I am "whining" it;s cause I havent slept well in 2 months and I am exhausted....
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Re: Just ordered Sleepez 10000....
Reply #50 Feb 9, 2008 10:25 AM
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Novahelp, what exactly is uncomfortable? As a side sleeper, do you have problems with your hips or shoulders? It might help people here advise you better if they know exactly what is going on.

Best of luck to you. I know you've been working on this for a long time. I hope you are able to find a solution that works.
Re: Just ordered Sleepez 10000....
Reply #51 Feb 9, 2008 10:42 AM
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mattressmom wrote:
Novahelp, what exactly is uncomfortable? As a side sleeper, do you have problems with your hips or shoulders? It might help people here advise you better if they know exactly what is going on.

Best of luck to you. I know you've been working on this for a long time. I hope you are able to find a solution that works.

Thank you for your supportive and kind reply.  I really am not trying to be a pest. I am just so disappointed and frustrated after being so excited about splurging a lot of money (well to me anyway) on a luxury item.

I am a side sleeper, and it is my hips are what need a soft support to prevent soreness -- this is why I can't use the Sleepez included mattress case, the wool just hurts my hips.

I think the problem is that I can't get the right combination of soft, firm, non-bouncy, and thick so i don't bottom out in the kit.  The closest I got was Medium-Firm-Soft, but as I said, it was too thin a mattress for my body. 

On top of that, my 2 month trial window is fast approaching and I have to get this figured out before then...
Re: Just ordered Sleepez 10000....
Reply #52 Feb 9, 2008 11:01 AM
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What do you have the mattress on? Is is a solid platform?

It might sound counterintuitive, but I wonder if two layers of medium over firm or even medium over medium on a solid platform would work. The solid platform at the bottom would be the extra firm layer. Maybe you have TOO MUCH latex under you.

I'm a side sleeper and found the Dunlop +/- 30 in the top layer to work for everyone in our family of side sleepers - even though we are different sizes. I recently played around with a cheap 1" layer of Talalay doubled over with a thick wool topper on top of the whole thing. (see the Brylane Latex Topper thread) I liked the extra cush for my hips but it didn't work for my husband.

As suggested above, maybe you need a good solid base with a one or two inch topper for your hips to sink into. That's pretty much the SleepEZ 8500 configuration. I wonder if Shawn could send you a layer of soft DUNLOP for your top layer.

You are right, you'll have to work this out soon.
Re: Just ordered Sleepez 10000....
Reply #53 Feb 9, 2008 11:15 AM
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mattressmom wrote:
What do you have the mattress on? Is is a solid platform?

It might sound counterintuitive, but I wonder if two layers of medium over firm or even medium over medium on a solid platform would work. The solid platform at the bottom would be the extra firm layer. Maybe you have TOO MUCH latex under you.

I'm a side sleeper and found the Dunlop +/- 30 in the top layer to work for everyone in our family of side sleepers - even though we are different sizes. I recently played around with a cheap 1" layer of Talalay doubled over with a thick wool topper on top of the whole thing. (see the Brylane Latex Topper thread) I liked the extra cush for my hips but it didn't work for my husband.

As suggested above, maybe you need a good solid base with a one or two inch topper for your hips to sink into. That's pretty much the SleepEZ 8500 configuration. I wonder if Shawn could send you a layer of soft DUNLOP for your top layer.

You are right, you'll have to work this out soon.

The layers are actually on the floor. I didn't buy a platform for it yet because I wanted to be sure I would keep it. 

At this point, lol, I have tried so many combination I just can't tell anymore what I like. :)
Re: Just ordered Sleepez 10000....
Reply #54 Feb 9, 2008 11:41 AM
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novahelp wrote:
The layers are actually on the floor. I didn't buy a platform for it yet because I wanted to be sure I would keep it.  <BR><BR>At this point, lol, I have tried so many combination I just can't tell anymore what I like. :)

It wouldn't hurt to try two layers for a night or two. It won't cost anything. It always takes my husband two or three nights to get used to a new configuration.

Or maybe this just isn't going to work for you and you'll have to cut your losses and move on. If it's any consolation, this thread helped convince me to go with Dunlop and a non-SleepEZ manufacturer. I didn't like the sound of your problems with the cover. Not much help for you but it did help us.

For the kids we got plain old medium six inch cores of Dunlop latex with simple covers. Much cheaper than the fancier alternatives and seem just as comfortable as our expensive mattress. The Dunlop is denser at the bottom than the top so it is sort layered without all the layers. Much simpler and more straight forward IF it works for you. The Dunlop isn't as wiggly. See the Talalay vs. Dunlop threads.

We used a cheap velour cover from eBay for my son's mattress. Works great. Comes in lots of sizes. Around $30 plus shipping - depending on the size.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ZIPPERED-VELOURCOVER-for-10-QUEEN-MEMORY-FOAM-MATTRESS_W0QQitemZ110220660299QQihZ001QQcategoryZ20479QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Re: Just ordered Sleepez 10000....
Reply #55 Feb 9, 2008 1:58 PM
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mattressmom wrote:
It wouldn't hurt to try two layers for a night or two. It won't cost anything. It always takes my husband two or three nights to get used to a new configuration.

Or maybe this just isn't going to work for you and you'll have to cut your losses and move on. If it's any consolation, this thread helped convince me to go with Dunlop and a non-SleepEZ manufacturer. I didn't like the sound of your problems with the cover. Not much help for you but it did help us.

For the kids we got plain old medium six inch cores of Dunlop latex with simple covers. Much cheaper than the fancier alternatives and seem just as comfortable as our expensive mattress. The Dunlop is denser at the bottom than the top so it is sort layered without all the layers. Much simpler and more straight forward IF it works for you. The Dunlop isn't as wiggly. See the Talalay vs. Dunlop threads.

We used a cheap velour cover from eBay for my son's mattress. Works great. Comes in lots of sizes. Around $30 plus shipping - depending on the size.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ZIPPERED-VELOURCOVER-for-10-QUEEN-MEMORY-FOAM-MATTRESS_W0QQitemZ110220660299QQihZ001QQcategoryZ20479QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I am going to go back and try an old configuration because I think it was not used to latex yet.

Don't let me being crazy :) dissuade anyone from trying Sleepez, they really are a great company. I am just adjusting I think

Spoke to Sean. I am going to go try an original configuration without their cover and see how it is.

Soft
Medium
Firm

Wish me luck! :)
Re: Just ordered Sleepez 10000....
Reply #56 Feb 9, 2008 2:34 PM
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Novahelp, what about trying the Brylane topper we are all ordering? It is only one inch thick and maybe that's all the cushion you need for your hips. It is not so thick that you negate the support of the firmer layers beneath.

I am also a side sleeper and on too firm a surface my hips go numb, but when I tried our 3 inch PU camping foam on top of the firm mattress, while it relieved the pressure points in my hips, itt allowed my spine to sink in too much and I was waking up with lower back pain.

3 inches for your soft layer is too much in my opinion. If you can get your support layers right I think one or two inches of “cush” on top is all you need. Would Sean send you a 2 inch or 1.5 inch soft layer to try instead of the standard 3 inch? When I talked to him, he said he could get a 1.5 inch topper for me if I wanted.

Good luck – I know what it’s like to be exhausted yet dread going to bed at the same time...

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