Just ordered Sleepez 10000....
Dec 15, 2007 12:44 PM
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Ok, I bit the bullet and ordered the SleepEZ 10000 and returned the Costco Comfortluxe.

I am a bit nervous about ordering a mattress without having tried it!  :)  However, what I really liked was Shawn even suggested I spend LESS and buy the 8500 model because "you just don't use more than 5.6/6" of foam." He said that until the mid-80s all the latex mattresses were just 6", but since then people think more is better. I ended up choosing the 10000 because of bed sheet fiting, Shawn said that sheets can be a bit of a pain to get for the thinner mattresses nowadays (Sheets are made for huge beds now)

So despite my nervousness on buying something sight unseen, I just keep telling myself all the wonderful reviews I have read here about the service level with Sleepez means it should be ok! :) (i hope :) ).
This message was modified Dec 15, 2007 by novahelp
Re: Just ordered Sleepez 10000....
Reply #18 Dec 28, 2007 12:37 AM
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Lynn2006 wrote:
Novahelp, I would ask Shawn to change the bottom two firm and extra firm layers for two medium ILD layers.  I know before I got any 44 ILD's here, my bed was too soft and I was amazed at the difference between a 36 ILD and a 44 ILD. So I would return the 44 ILD and maybe the 38 ILD and get all 32 ILD's in your case.

I like a firm bed so that configuration would be too soft for me.  For myself I am finding the new medium soft (wish it was very soft instead) 1.5" topper is not good for me since it is too firm right next to my body and I have to keep it on a 44 ILD to be somewhat comfortable since over a 36 ILD it is so uncomfortable with too much thickness. If it was very soft (my fault since Dave at FloBeds.com asked me what I wanted and I had no idea what the ILD on my 1" overstock topper was), I would sink in despite being only about 100 lbs and have some cushion but still feel the 36 ILD underneath me with the two 44 ILD's. I am going to go upstairs right now and put my 1" topper back on over the 36 ILD over two 44 ILD's to get to the way I was comfortable before. I just did not like the fact that the overstock 1" topper was falling apart. If this is perfect again for me, I will call Dave to ask him to get me a 1" very soft Talalay Latex Topper since I gave back my 2" Talalay latex topper since it was too soft for me. :)  We have the opposite problem with me liking my beds very firm but with a little cushion. Due to my car accident and hurting my back and neck, Dave said he'd give me more time to try out the topper he was going to send me.  That is great customer service.  MY bed was at first too soft and I needed to do so many latex layers exhanges and I was amazed that I liked my bed so firm. But now I am finding out I like very very soft toppers that are thin.

But I heard Shawn at SleepEz..com gives good customer service also. Find out how many latex layer exchanges you can do. Hopefully Shawn will exchange two of the latex layers for you.


Thanks for the thoughts.  The 10,000 unit only has 3 latex layers, the top memory foam layer I added after the awful sleep I got last night. The memory foam makes this bed tolerable while I wait to talk with shawn.  I did call Shawn today, left message and have not yet heard back.
Re: Just ordered Sleepez 10000....
Reply #19 Dec 28, 2007 12:40 AM
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Lynn2006 wrote:
After changing the topper, I found out that the 1.5" latex topper is a 22-23 ILD and not too firm but just not as soft as my 17 ILD latex topper. Maybe I needed a 15 ILD or maybe I just need to try the 1" topper tonight and tomorrow try the 1.5" topper over a 44 ILD over a 36ILD over a 44 ILD to see if this will be good since I just tired the 1.5" ILD over the floor and it was so comfortable.  I had my bed so comfortable and perfect before my car accident. Now with 5 herniated disks, I have to reconfigure it a bit. I am glad I at least can do this with my zippered cover. If I had a bed that I was stuck with the configuration, I would now be trying different toppers and hoping my bed would be too firm and not too soft since it is easier to soften a bed than make it firmer. 

Novahelp, do you have two sides of the bed or one big latex piece that covers both sides of the bed? If you have the split cores like I do, you could try the soft over a medium over a medium over a firm on your side to see if this would work. I love having split layers allowing me more combinations.


I have it split sides. I guess I could try:

Medium
Medium
Firm

 When I get Shawn to call me back I assume he will send me their split soft 22 ILD layer. Hopefully the soft can make this thing comfortable! :)
Re: Just ordered Sleepez 10000....
Reply #20 Dec 28, 2007 12:59 AM
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Ok, this is what I am trying tonight as I don't have a soft layer to use:

Medium
Medium
X-firm

Funny, this is what Jeremy originally suggested too!

After a bit I switched it again to make it as soft as possible:

Medium
Medium
Firm

Phew, fingers crossed!
This message was modified Dec 28, 2007 by novahelp
Re: Just ordered Sleepez 10000....
Reply #21 Dec 28, 2007 2:03 AM
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Then if the Medium over Medium over firm feels good, you can make the other side of the bed the same. If it is a little bit too firm, you can request another medium to put underneath so you have no firms.  Please let us know how this works out. I am glad I remembered the split layers so you could see if it would work out.  I must get to bed. 
Re: Just ordered Sleepez 10000....
Reply #22 Dec 28, 2007 7:59 AM
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Lynn2006 wrote:
Then if the Medium over Medium over firm feels good, you can make the other side of the bed the same. If it is a little bit too firm, you can request another medium to put underneath so you have no firms.  Please let us know how this works out. I am glad I remembered the split layers so you could see if it would work out.  I must get to bed. 

Thanks I forgot that I could do this type of combination.

Reporting back from a so-so nights sleep.  It doesn't feel good. it is tolerable. :(  Hardly worth the amount of money I spent.

I think I may have figured out part of the problem.  The mattress case/shell is HARD. I am used to sleeping directly on memory foam which gives a soft luxurxious feel. The  mattress case is a wool top that makes it feel to me EXACTLY like a normal mattress with no conforming properties at all.  This wool top doesn't let the latex mold to my body -- it always feels stiff.  It is stiffness as well as the firmness that is the problem.

I think I need some other type of mattress case as well as getting a softer top layer.
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Re: Just ordered Sleepez 10000....
Reply #23 Dec 28, 2007 8:14 AM
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Reporting back:
I just put back on my 3" memory foam topper,  so I have the following:

3" memory foam
medium latex
medium latex
firm latex

This setup is too soft, however the awful feeling of the stiff wool top is no longer there. I think this is part of the problem!

I hope they have a different shell they can send me as this thing is not good to me at all.
Re: Just ordered Sleepez 10000....
Reply #24 Dec 28, 2007 9:58 AM
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Can you describe the mattress cover a bit? There seems to be a lot of discussion about the latex on this board but very little about the mattress covers. Some of the mattress web sites seem to gloss over the details of the covers.

Is the fabric itself stiff? - like it is infused with silica (sand) or something else for fire retardancy reasons? Or is it stiff because it is a tight fit around the latex? The Sleep EZ web site describes a "luxury cotton cover quilted to wool".

Can anyone else comment on the mattress covers for other layered latex mattresses too?
Re: Just ordered Sleepez 10000....
Reply #25 Dec 28, 2007 11:39 AM
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"The contribution of the cover deserves far more attention than it gets. Taut, non-stretch covers create a "hammock, or "trampoline" effect, are not enveloping, and can be uncomfortable. Paradoxically, softer latex may feel firmer. The 4 way stretch memory foam type covers are one good solution.
Re: Just ordered Sleepez 10000....
Reply #26 Dec 28, 2007 11:46 AM
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I just spoke to Sean. He said he would send:

1) A terry cloth stretch mattress case. He thought this would be a lot softer than the wool one and give me the softer feel I am used to as compared to memory foam.
2) Soft latex layer

All shipped at no charge to me.  

Thus far, service is fantastic.
This message was modified Dec 28, 2007 by novahelp
Re: Just ordered Sleepez 10000....
Reply #27 Dec 28, 2007 11:48 AM
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mccldwll wrote:
"The contribution of the cover deserves far more attention than it gets. Taut, non-stretch covers create a "hammock, or "trampoline" effect, are not enveloping, and can be uncomfortable. Paradoxically, softer latex may feel firmer. The 4 way stretch memory foam type covers are one good solution.

That is exactly the problem I get, but couldn't describe it as well as you just did. This cover is not at all "enveloping", which is why I described above as feeling exactly like a normal mattress this latex foam.  :)


I just rotated my foam and with the case open laid down directly on the foam without the mattress closed:

medium
medium
X-firm

Wow, so much nicer when my body is in direct contact with the latex!!!!!  It actually envelopes my body just wonderfully!!!! :)

 It is definitely the mattress case and it's resulting stiffness.

 I hope the stretch terry cover fixes this, otherwise I may just sleep directly on the foam :)
This message was modified Dec 28, 2007 by novahelp

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