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Ok, I bit the bullet and ordered the SleepEZ 10000 and returned the Costco Comfortluxe. I am a bit nervous about ordering a mattress without having tried it! :) However, what I really liked was Shawn even suggested I spend LESS and buy the 8500 model because "you just don't use more than 5.6/6" of foam." He said that until the mid-80s all the latex mattresses were just 6", but since then people think more is better. I ended up choosing the 10000 because of bed sheet fiting, Shawn said that sheets can be a bit of a pain to get for the thinner mattresses nowadays (Sheets are made for huge beds now) So despite my nervousness on buying something sight unseen, I just keep telling myself all the wonderful reviews I have read here about the service level with Sleepez means it should be ok! :) (i hope :) ). This message was modified Dec 15, 2007 by novahelp
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ericgl wrote: My first night felt way too firm and that was with 3" 20 ILD, 3" 32 ILD, and 5" 50 IFD PU foam. The second night was much better. I added another 2" 32 ILD latex in an attempt to get me further off the PU foam. Better, but still not soft enough, so I'm adding some 16-18 ILD latex. I hope I don't have to do all that. I thought by spending the $$ I wouldn't have to start spending even more on top of it nor create a frankenbed :) I guess I like a very soft bed that is supportive, which I didn't know before (or realize). I will call Shawn to discuss later today. OUCH!!!!! Currently I have with this with the sleepez 10000 that makes is ok & slightly comfy, but hardly worth $1550 :( 3:" FBM memory foam 15 ILD , 5.5lbs topper 2.8 Latex medium 30-32 ILD 2.8 Latex firm 38-40 ILD 2.8 Latex x-firm 44 ILD This message was modified Dec 27, 2007 by novahelp
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| I would check with Shawn about the advisability of trading your extra firm layer for a soft layer. I find that latex is supportive even when the ILD is low (unlike memory foam). |
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Novahelp, I would ask Shawn to change the bottom two firm and extra firm layers for two medium ILD layers. I know before I got any 44 ILD's here, my bed was too soft and I was amazed at the difference between a 36 ILD and a 44 ILD. So I would return the 44 ILD and maybe the 38 ILD and get all 32 ILD's in your case. I like a firm bed so that configuration would be too soft for me. For myself I am finding the new medium soft (wish it was very soft instead) 1.5" topper is not good for me since it is too firm right next to my body and I have to keep it on a 44 ILD to be somewhat comfortable since over a 36 ILD it is so uncomfortable with too much thickness. If it was very soft (my fault since Dave at FloBeds.com asked me what I wanted and I had no idea what the ILD on my 1" overstock topper was), I would sink in despite being only about 100 lbs and have some cushion but still feel the 36 ILD underneath me with the two 44 ILD's. I am going to go upstairs right now and put my 1" topper back on over the 36 ILD over two 44 ILD's to get to the way I was comfortable before. I just did not like the fact that the overstock 1" topper was falling apart. If this is perfect again for me, I will call Dave to ask him to get me a 1" very soft Talalay Latex Topper since I gave back my 2" Talalay latex topper since it was too soft for me. :) We have the opposite problem with me liking my beds very firm but with a little cushion. Due to my car accident and hurting my back and neck, Dave said he'd give me more time to try out the topper he was going to send me. That is great customer service. MY bed was at first too soft and I needed to do so many latex layers exhanges and I was amazed that I liked my bed so firm. But now I am finding out I like very very soft toppers that are thin. But I heard Shawn at SleepEz..com gives good customer service also. Find out how many latex layer exchanges you can do. Hopefully Shawn will exchange two of the latex layers for you. |
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After changing the topper, I found out that the 1.5" latex topper is a 22-23 ILD and not too firm but just not as soft as my 17 ILD latex topper. Maybe I needed a 15 ILD or maybe I just need to try the 1" topper tonight and tomorrow try the 1.5" topper over a 44 ILD over a 36ILD over a 44 ILD to see if this will be good since I just tired the 1.5" ILD over the floor and it was so comfortable. I had my bed so comfortable and perfect before my car accident. Now with 5 herniated disks, I have to reconfigure it a bit. I am glad I at least can do this with my zippered cover. If I had a bed that I was stuck with the configuration, I would now be trying different toppers and hoping my bed would be too firm and not too soft since it is easier to soften a bed than make it firmer. Novahelp, do you have two sides of the bed or one big latex piece that covers both sides of the bed? If you have the split cores like I do, you could try the soft over a medium over a medium over a firm on your side to see if this would work. I love having split layers allowing me more combinations. |
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Lynn2006 wrote: Novahelp, I would ask Shawn to change the bottom two firm and extra firm layers for two medium ILD layers. I know before I got any 44 ILD's here, my bed was too soft and I was amazed at the difference between a 36 ILD and a 44 ILD. So I would return the 44 ILD and maybe the 38 ILD and get all 32 ILD's in your case. I like a firm bed so that configuration would be too soft for me. For myself I am finding the new medium soft (wish it was very soft instead) 1.5" topper is not good for me since it is too firm right next to my body and I have to keep it on a 44 ILD to be somewhat comfortable since over a 36 ILD it is so uncomfortable with too much thickness. If it was very soft (my fault since Dave at FloBeds.com asked me what I wanted and I had no idea what the ILD on my 1" overstock topper was), I would sink in despite being only about 100 lbs and have some cushion but still feel the 36 ILD underneath me with the two 44 ILD's. I am going to go upstairs right now and put my 1" topper back on over the 36 ILD over two 44 ILD's to get to the way I was comfortable before. I just did not like the fact that the overstock 1" topper was falling apart. If this is perfect again for me, I will call Dave to ask him to get me a 1" very soft Talalay Latex Topper since I gave back my 2" Talalay latex topper since it was too soft for me. :) We have the opposite problem with me liking my beds very firm but with a little cushion. Due to my car accident and hurting my back and neck, Dave said he'd give me more time to try out the topper he was going to send me. That is great customer service. MY bed was at first too soft and I needed to do so many latex layers exhanges and I was amazed that I liked my bed so firm. But now I am finding out I like very very soft toppers that are thin. But I heard Shawn at SleepEz..com gives good customer service also. Find out how many latex layer exchanges you can do. Hopefully Shawn will exchange two of the latex layers for you. Thanks for the thoughts. The 10,000 unit only has 3 latex layers, the top memory foam layer I added after the awful sleep I got last night. The memory foam makes this bed tolerable while I wait to talk with shawn. I did call Shawn today, left message and have not yet heard back. |
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Lynn2006 wrote: After changing the topper, I found out that the 1.5" latex topper is a 22-23 ILD and not too firm but just not as soft as my 17 ILD latex topper. Maybe I needed a 15 ILD or maybe I just need to try the 1" topper tonight and tomorrow try the 1.5" topper over a 44 ILD over a 36ILD over a 44 ILD to see if this will be good since I just tired the 1.5" ILD over the floor and it was so comfortable. I had my bed so comfortable and perfect before my car accident. Now with 5 herniated disks, I have to reconfigure it a bit. I am glad I at least can do this with my zippered cover. If I had a bed that I was stuck with the configuration, I would now be trying different toppers and hoping my bed would be too firm and not too soft since it is easier to soften a bed than make it firmer. Novahelp, do you have two sides of the bed or one big latex piece that covers both sides of the bed? If you have the split cores like I do, you could try the soft over a medium over a medium over a firm on your side to see if this would work. I love having split layers allowing me more combinations. I have it split sides. I guess I could try: Medium Medium Firm When I get Shawn to call me back I assume he will send me their split soft 22 ILD layer. Hopefully the soft can make this thing comfortable! :) |
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Ok, this is what I am trying tonight as I don't have a soft layer to use: Medium Medium X-firm Funny, this is what Jeremy originally suggested too! After a bit I switched it again to make it as soft as possible: Medium Medium Firm Phew, fingers crossed! This message was modified Dec 28, 2007 by novahelp
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| Then if the Medium over Medium over firm feels good, you can make the other side of the bed the same. If it is a little bit too firm, you can request another medium to put underneath so you have no firms. Please let us know how this works out. I am glad I remembered the split layers so you could see if it would work out. I must get to bed. |
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Lynn2006 wrote: Then if the Medium over Medium over firm feels good, you can make the other side of the bed the same. If it is a little bit too firm, you can request another medium to put underneath so you have no firms. Please let us know how this works out. I am glad I remembered the split layers so you could see if it would work out. I must get to bed. Thanks I forgot that I could do this type of combination. Reporting back from a so-so nights sleep. It doesn't feel good. it is tolerable. :( Hardly worth the amount of money I spent. I think I may have figured out part of the problem. The mattress case/shell is HARD. I am used to sleeping directly on memory foam which gives a soft luxurxious feel. The mattress case is a wool top that makes it feel to me EXACTLY like a normal mattress with no conforming properties at all. This wool top doesn't let the latex mold to my body -- it always feels stiff. It is stiffness as well as the firmness that is the problem. I think I need some other type of mattress case as well as getting a softer top layer. This message was modified Dec 28, 2007 by novahelp
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Reporting back: I just put back on my 3" memory foam topper, so I have the following: 3" memory foam medium latex medium latex firm latex This setup is too soft, however the awful feeling of the stiff wool top is no longer there. I think this is part of the problem! I hope they have a different shell they can send me as this thing is not good to me at all. |