How's this spring mattress I just ordered?
Mar 1, 2008 4:09 PM
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I ordered this Sealy as I plan to now put my own 3" latex or memory foam topper on top of the strong coil system
This one, according to the salesman, Sealy Posturepedic Wyrick is basically just the coil with some padding.

What I liked is this salesman understood what I was trying to do and didn't try to upsell me on more plush models since I planned to use my own comfort layers. Also they will give me one free total bed exchange if I don't like it...

http://www.mattress.com/ProductDetails.aspx?PID=13753&SID=6

Was thinking of keeping the soft 2.9" layer from my SleepEz bed to use as the topper.

Thoughts?
This message was modified Mar 1, 2008 by novahelp
Re: How's this spring mattress I just ordered?
Reply #14 Mar 9, 2008 1:44 PM
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This mattress is a piece of sh*t.  I had to put 3" of latex and 3" of memory foam on top to make it bareable last night!! I still woke up with my hip and shoulder hurting.
I can't believe they sell this thing for $1200. 

FIrst, I feel like I am laying on a "buggy seat" it jiggles so much. There is NO padding at all, and the covering feels like hard plastic.  OUCH!

I am going to ask for a switch to this one:  http://www.mattress.com/ProductDetails.aspx?PID=28079&SID=6 
My last mattress from 10yrs ago was a Serta and I think it will be much better.
Re: How's this spring mattress I just ordered?
Reply #15 Mar 9, 2008 2:26 PM
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Novahelp,

I'm so sorry this didn't work for you. Your new mattress unfortunately sounds like my old hard bed where my toppers just couldn't make it comfortable. I read about the one you are ordering--it looks like it will help relieve those pressure points. Plus the Outlast should not make it so hot. I think I speak for the others here in saying we were all pulling for this mattress to work out. Let us know after you try the new one. Too bad mattress shopping is such a trial and error endeavor. That's why we have forums like this I guess.

Sabra

PS I've found my mattress but I'm still trying out pillows to not have neck pain when I awake. I'm going on my forth one now!

Re: How's this spring mattress I just ordered?
Reply #16 Mar 9, 2008 2:39 PM
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Sabra wrote:
Novahelp,

I'm so sorry this didn't work for you. Your new mattress unfortunately sounds like my old hard bed where my toppers just couldn't make it comfortable. I read about the one you are ordering--it looks like it will help relieve those pressure points. Plus the Outlast should not make it so hot. I think I speak for the others here in saying we were all pulling for this mattress to work out. Let us know after you try the new one. Too bad mattress shopping is such a trial and error endeavor. That's why we have forums like this I guess.

Sabra

PS I've found my mattress but I'm still trying out pillows to not have neck pain when I awake. I'm going on my forth one now!


Thanks for your supportive words. In a MILLION years I never thought this would take me months. My last bed was a Serta I went to Sams and purchased for $300 10 yrs ago and it was GREAT.
I hope this new Serta isnt as jiggly as the Sealy. It will take a week to get to me so I am going to their showroom to try it out again..
Re: How's this spring mattress I just ordered?
Reply #17 Mar 9, 2008 3:47 PM
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I'm sorry novahelp. :( In the past 25 years I've had two Sealys and one Serta Perfect Sleeper, purchased in the late '80s. The Serta still sits in my guest room, in "PERFECT" condition. The Sealys never felt as comfortable to me. One was BOARD hard. My mistake for going with super-firm. I sold that to a friend and bought the Serta. At first I ordered a firmer one, but quickly exchanged it for the cushion firm in the same model. Ahhhhh...much better. Double-sided. Belgian damask cover. Built like they used to build mattresses. They must have used better foams back then, too. Or I just got lucky. The later Sealy (the one before my current zippered mattress) was also on the firmer side, but definitely started sagging in the middle, even with minimal foam. Granted, it was 12 years old. But it was on its way out before that. Actually, my husband had a cheap Serta pillow top that my mattress guy took apart and the foam was pretty bad. Coils in perfect condition. So, even Sertas have their crummy fillings.

Anyway, my point is, I preferred my OLD Serta over my old Sealys. I also think my foundation has more bounce to it than my current ones, although I prefer a more stable base.

Good luck and keep us posted!

novahelp wrote:
This mattress is a piece of sh*t.  I had to put 3&quot; of latex and 3&quot; of memory foam on top to make it bareable last night!! I still woke up with my hip and shoulder hurting.<BR>I can't believe they sell this thing for $1200.  <BR><BR>FIrst, I feel like I am laying on a &quot;buggy seat&quot; it jiggles so much. There is NO padding at all, and the covering feels like hard plastic.  OUCH!<BR><BR>I am going to ask for a switch to this one:  http://www.mattress.com/ProductDetails.aspx?PID=28079&amp;SID=6  <BR>My last mattress from 10yrs ago was a Serta and I think it will be much better.
Re: How's this spring mattress I just ordered?
Reply #18 Mar 9, 2008 5:56 PM
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BeddyBye wrote:
I'm sorry novahelp. :( In the past 25 years I've had two Sealys and one Serta Perfect Sleeper, purchased in the late '80s. The Serta still sits in my guest room, in "PERFECT" condition. The Sealys never felt as comfortable to me. One was BOARD hard. My mistake for going with super-firm. I sold that to a friend and bought the Serta. At first I ordered a firmer one, but quickly exchanged it for the cushion firm in the same model. Ahhhhh...much better. Double-sided. Belgian damask cover. Built like they used to build mattresses. They must have used better foams back then, too. Or I just got lucky. The later Sealy (the one before my current zippered mattress) was also on the firmer side, but definitely started sagging in the middle, even with minimal foam. Granted, it was 12 years old. But it was on its way out before that. Actually, my husband had a cheap Serta pillow top that my mattress guy took apart and the foam was pretty bad. Coils in perfect condition. So, even Sertas have their crummy fillings.

Anyway, my point is, I preferred my OLD Serta over my old Sealys. I also think my foundation has more bounce to it than my current ones, although I prefer a more stable base.

Good luck and keep us posted!

Funny you said that, this cheap Sealy feels like a "board" -- sort of like one of those cheap motel mattresses.

Like you my old Serta was so wonderful -- I didn't realize how much better quality that cheap thing from Sams was just 10 years ago compared to the units out today. It too was two sided, had great plush tops on both sides.  If the darn thing didn't start making me roll towards the middle I would still be using it today! :(

Anyway, I hope a Serta will work.  People here have said that the Sealys are "jiggly" and "bouncy" because of their spring type, so going back to Serta hopefully will at least give me a nice spring system again.  I went for the plush top over the pillow top because I still plan to put my own comfort layer on top and it is well known that pillow tops eventually settle and get hard.

Honestly, if this mattress lasts 3 yrs I am fine with it at this point.  :)
Re: How's this spring mattress I just ordered?
Reply #19 Mar 9, 2008 6:02 PM
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Novahelp, I know your frustration. In February last year, I was looking for a bed during the President's sale day weekend and I was amazed at how the prices have gone up for beds not nearly as comfortable as my former beds.  I made the mistake of listening to salepeople tell me lies about what the bed was made out of and going softer than my back likes since they told me that was what my back needed. After returning the bed I was so allergic to, I then decided to buy a latex topper and sleep on the floor until after my busy season when I had time to try out a latex kit.  But the car accident did not happen until August so I was comfortable with the set up on the carpet in my bedroom and my little dogs loved visiting me an playing on my bed and were upset with I got a bed on legs again in May. 

I still do not know how you can sleep on a thick soft layer as a topper but maybe you are much bigger than me (I am not quite 5 feet and very petite) so you sink down enough to feel the support underneath. I am having problems with my 1" topper being too soft.

Re: How's this spring mattress I just ordered?
Reply #20 Mar 9, 2008 8:56 PM
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Lynn2006 wrote:

I still do not know how you can sleep on a thick soft layer as a topper but maybe you are much bigger than me (I am not quite 5 feet and very petite) so you sink down enough to feel the support underneath. I am having problems with my 1" topper being too soft.


Our frames are VERY different :)  At 6'5" 215lbs things work very different for me  :)  I honestly just like a surface to cushion my hips from side sleeping, and i need more cushion as I push down with about 2x the force as you :)   (F=M*A) :P
This message was modified Mar 9, 2008 by novahelp
Re: How's this spring mattress I just ordered?
Reply #21 Mar 9, 2008 11:08 PM
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Novahelp, You are so right that since our frames are so different, we require different amounts of cushion.  So maybe the 2.9" soft layer is not too soft for you since you since down much more than me being so tall.  Please keep us updated. We are all here for you since I try to help others like they have helped me in the past and continue to help me.
Re: How's this spring mattress I just ordered?
Reply #22 Mar 9, 2008 11:36 PM
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You know, that's funny--- my Serta is actually more jiggly than any of our beds. Not sure if it's the actual mattress doing this or the boxspring. I can also hear it creaking when I move on it. Just reminds me more of the way my mattresses felt when I was a lot younger. But again, I think it might have to do with the way the boxspring works with the mattress. Back when I slept on it full time, I didn't really think much of it. But now that I've slept on mattresses that seem to "stay still" and not creak, I can really tell the difference. I don't think I would like that sensation now. In fact, right after my husband and I married and we decided on a King, I searched and searched for a mattress to duplicate my Serta PERFECT sleeper. Never found it. But, now I'm not so sure I would feel comfortable on that old mattress anymore...although I do love the Belgian damask cover and the fact that it has two sides.

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novahelp wrote:
Funny you said that, this cheap Sealy feels like a "board" -- sort of like one of those cheap motel mattresses.

Like you my old Serta was so wonderful -- I didn't realize how much better quality that cheap thing from Sams was just 10 years ago compared to the units out today. It too was two sided, had great plush tops on both sides. If the darn thing didn't start making me roll towards the middle I would still be using it today! :(

Anyway, I hope a Serta will work. People here have said that the Sealys are "jiggly" and "bouncy" because of their spring type, so going back to Serta hopefully will at least give me a nice spring system again. I went for the plush top over the pillow top because I still plan to put my own comfort layer on top and it is well known that pillow tops eventually settle and get hard.

Honestly, if this mattress lasts 3 yrs I am fine with it at this point. :)
This message was modified Mar 9, 2008 by BeddyBye
Re: How's this spring mattress I just ordered?
Reply #23 Mar 10, 2008 12:10 AM
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BeddyBye wrote:
You know, that's funny--- my Serta is actually more jiggly than any of our beds. Not sure if it's the actual mattress doing this or the boxspring. I can also hear it creaking when I move on it. Just reminds me more of the way my mattresses felt when I was a lot younger. But again, I think it might have to do with the way the boxspring works with the mattress. Back when I slept on it full time, I didn't really think much of it. But now that I've slept on mattresses that seem to "stay still" and not creak, I can really tell the difference. I don't think I would like that sensation now. In fact, right after my husband and I married and we decided on a King, I searched and searched for a mattress to duplicate my Serta PERFECT sleeper. Never found it. But, now I'm not so sure I would feel comfortable on that old mattress anymore...although I do love the Belgian damask cover and the fact that it has two sides.


Well, this sealy it is NOT the bedspring. The top is cheap plastic and it feels like a table, not kidding.  I told the store this when getting the exchange, they should be embarrassed to be selling it for $1000!!! It feels like a $200 mattress.

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