I ordered this Sealy as I plan to now put my own 3" latex or memory foam topper on top of the strong coil system
This one, according to the salesman, Sealy Posturepedic Wyrick is basically just the coil with some padding.

What I liked is this salesman understood what I was trying to do and didn't try to upsell me on more plush models since I planned to use my own comfort layers. Also they will give me one free total bed exchange if I don't like it...

http://www.mattress.com/ProductDetails.aspx?PID=13753&SID=6

Was thinking of keeping the soft 2.9" layer from my SleepEz bed to use as the topper.

Thoughts?

BeddyBye wrote:
Funny you said that, this cheap Sealy feels like a "board" -- sort of like one of those cheap motel mattresses.

Like you my old Serta was so wonderful -- I didn't realize how much better quality that cheap thing from Sams was just 10 years ago compared to the units out today. It too was two sided, had great plush tops on both sides.  If the darn thing didn't start making me roll towards the middle I would still be using it today! :(

Anyway, I hope a Serta will work.  People here have said that the Sealys are "jiggly" and "bouncy" because of their spring type, so going back to Serta hopefully will at least give me a nice spring system again.  I went for the plush top over the pillow top because I still plan to put my own comfort layer on top and it is well known that pillow tops eventually settle and get hard.

Honestly, if this mattress lasts 3 yrs I am fine with it at this point.  :)

Novahelp, I know your frustration. In February last year, I was looking for a bed during the President's sale day weekend and I was amazed at how the prices have gone up for beds not nearly as comfortable as my former beds.  I made the mistake of listening to salepeople tell me lies about what the bed was made out of and going softer than my back likes since they told me that was what my back needed. After returning the bed I was so allergic to, I then decided to buy a latex topper and sleep on the floor until after my busy season when I had time to try out a latex kit.  But the car accident did not happen until August so I was comfortable with the set up on the carpet in my bedroom and my little dogs loved visiting me an playing on my bed and were upset with I got a bed on legs again in May. 

I still do not know how you can sleep on a thick soft layer as a topper but maybe you are much bigger than me (I am not quite 5 feet and very petite) so you sink down enough to feel the support underneath. I am having problems with my 1" topper being too soft.

Lynn2006 wrote:
Our frames are VERY different :)  At 6'5" 215lbs things work very different for me  :)  I honestly just like a surface to cushion my hips from side sleeping, and i need more cushion as I push down with about 2x the force as you :)   (F=M*A) :P

Novahelp, You are so right that since our frames are so different, we require different amounts of cushion.  So maybe the 2.9" soft layer is not too soft for you since you since down much more than me being so tall.  Please keep us updated. We are all here for you since I try to help others like they have helped me in the past and continue to help me.

You know, that's funny--- my Serta is actually more jiggly than any of our beds. Not sure if it's the actual mattress doing this or the boxspring. I can also hear it creaking when I move on it. Just reminds me more of the way my mattresses felt when I was a lot younger. But again, I think it might have to do with the way the boxspring works with the mattress. Back when I slept on it full time, I didn't really think much of it. But now that I've slept on mattresses that seem to "stay still" and not creak, I can really tell the difference. I don't think I would like that sensation now. In fact, right after my husband and I married and we decided on a King, I searched and searched for a mattress to duplicate my Serta PERFECT sleeper. Never found it. But, now I'm not so sure I would feel comfortable on that old mattress anymore...although I do love the Belgian damask cover and the fact that it has two sides.

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novahelp wrote:
Funny you said that, this cheap Sealy feels like a "board" -- sort of like one of those cheap motel mattresses.

Like you my old Serta was so wonderful -- I didn't realize how much better quality that cheap thing from Sams was just 10 years ago compared to the units out today. It too was two sided, had great plush tops on both sides. If the darn thing didn't start making me roll towards the middle I would still be using it today! :(

Anyway, I hope a Serta will work. People here have said that the Sealys are "jiggly" and "bouncy" because of their spring type, so going back to Serta hopefully will at least give me a nice spring system again. I went for the plush top over the pillow top because I still plan to put my own comfort layer on top and it is well known that pillow tops eventually settle and get hard.

Honestly, if this mattress lasts 3 yrs I am fine with it at this point. :)

BeddyBye wrote:
Well, this sealy it is NOT the bedspring. The top is cheap plastic and it feels like a table, not kidding.  I told the store this when getting the exchange, they should be embarrassed to be selling it for $1000!!! It feels like a $200 mattress.

One of the problems is, in my experience, that the mattress they deliver to your house feels nothing like the one you tried in the store. Whether the floor model has been broken in by hundreds of people laying on it over months (or years), or whether they have a special floor model as a "bait and switch" -- I'm getting into conspiracy theories here ;-) -- who knows.

The second mattress we got in our comfort exchange (we ended up with a third after returning this one) was a plush firm Simmons World Class that felt like the perfect thing in the store, but felt like we were sleeping on the sidewalk on the one they delivered to the house. Even with a couple of toppers (and a ladder to get into bed) it was still as hard as a rock. I spent several nights on the couch until they came and took it away.

The sales person, said it just needed "breaking in", but it was going to break my back long before that ever happened. I really just wanted to cry at that point. We had spent SO much time trying out mattresses to make sure we wouldn't make a mistake, and it seemed that it was all for nothing if the bed we got wasn't going to feel anything like the one we picked out in the store.

I guess this isn't a whole lot of help to you at this point -- just commiseration... I hope you figure something out soon and can finally get a good night's sleep.

Kimmcgov, I am so sorry you had so much problems also with mattresses. They used to make mattresses so comfortable years ago.  I am still sick and should not be up but I have been trying to work since I was not productive today until late afternoon.

kimmcgov wrote:
I've suspected the same thing myself and I think there might be something to it. When I was mattress shopping I inspected the tags of the one I was considering and it said "Floor Model" right there. Why would it say that if it was no different from any other mattress? When I got mine delivered and lay down on it it felt softer in the center than the one I had tried out in the store for a good two hours! I don't think it was my imagination. I have to wonder if the floor models are made with HR foam rather than the cheap PU foam they put in the regular mattresses, just to make them feel more substantial and hold up better while customers test them out.

cloud9 wrote:
Some floor models are there for YEARS. When I was considering the W Hotel bed (Simmons beautyrest classic)  the sales guy said the bed had been there for two years and that is why it might be hammocking for me!   I was like, uh after two years it's already too soft that doesn't speak well for quality and decided to pass on it (even though it was a GREAT deal).