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So, I do love my bed. But it isn't devoid of motion, and apparently my neurotic/anxious self won't allow any motion these days. So I'm trying to figure out how to configure a bed in which i can sleep with my partner (otherwise he's relegated to the other room). I have the mattress on a platform bed with slats. The slats flex a bit, obviously giving a little motion to the mattress. Is it possible to put a mattress on a platform with slats that don't flex, or on a solid platform, or will any kind of platform add some movement? Is it thus necessary to have totally separate platforms/frames? I was considering cutting the mattress (latex/PU foam) in half, and sleeping side by side on the same platform bed, but this will probably still have some movement. I guess i need a platform with the same amount of motion as the floor (none), but i don't know if this exists. If i did cut the mattress, and get two different frames/platforms, maybe i could get a 'bridge' in case we want to join the mattresses together sometimes. But i assume that once i put the bridge on, it will transfer motion from one mattress to another. Correct? This would be once in a while, i guess. So, it seems that I'll have to sell our beautiful platform bed and get two separate ones, if i'm to have absolutely no motion. Does this sound right, or is there something else I haven't considered? Thanks for any advice you can give a hopelessly neurotic person! ;) |
Boy it usually is snoring that does the other partner in and they get their own room  Is it a "flexible" slat platform? If it isn't gee kinda strange it flexes isn't it? I can't stand a noisy spring mattress and the box springs noise. I am super picky on noise. Some people have twin beds on seperate frames. If you put them side by side on the same frame I believe you'll still have the problem. Sorry, no help here. Seperate rooms or beds may be the only choice if you can't stand movement. Refresh my memory what bed do you have that you love? |
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hi Leo, thanks for your two cents! Yeah, I'll probably have to go with the two platforms/frames. I have a DIY mattress, made of layers of PU foam and a top layer of latex. --ecat |
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Electracat, if you're not like me, and can put up with sharing the same blanket and sheets with your partner, then I think just having 2 platforms with a half inch or less in between them might work, with the latex and foam also divided between the two separate but right-next-to-each-other mattresses. Unfortunately my wife and I are so different in our sleeping styles we had to go completely separate so we have 2 twins right next to each other but she has her own sheets and blankets and I have mine. It's not ideal for a marriage, but then again, without a good chance at sleep I would get pretty grouchy... So it's the only thing we could really do. We have our mattresses about 6 inches or so apart so it's easy for us to hop over to visit each other when we feel like it. Yes, I think the bridge will transfer some motion, but not as much as being on the same platform. It might be worth a try. You'll have to decide if you think it is, or not. We didn't try it because I just knew it would give too much transfer of motion. And I don't think a person is necessarily "hopelessly neurotic person" to have a problem with this. (Of course, you have to consider the source of this statement. ;-D ) But there are many reasons why a person might not be able to sleep with one's mate in the same bed. I agree it's rare but I don't think we're the only ones. Although I am a light sleeper, I don't think even a "normal" sleeper could put up with my wife's constant turning, tossing, kicking, pullling covers, not wanting covers on her feet, etc. etc. So it takes 2 to tango, in some cases at least. Again, getting back to your question, if you can stand your wife's sharing the same sheets and blankets, and it's just the motion of the mattress that bothers you, you could try latex only (no shared springs of course) on a very stable platform. By stable I think a platform of very strong wood such as oak or something, with more boards and less space in between the boards, would basically provide very little transfer of motion. My wife and I had our flobeds right on the floor if I recall correctly and we had no transfer of motion. It was the sheets, blankets and kicking and all that drove us to separate twin beds, not the latex mattress. Hope this helps you decide. |
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Jim, thanks for the lengthy and thoughtful reply! Just to clarify: 1) If i want NO motion, I'd have to get two platforms--one will always provide a little motion? I would love to make our current platform bed 'motionless', but i'm not sure how to do that, or if it's possible to replicate the non-motion of the floor. 2) You're saying that with two platforms and two mattresses, i could use one set of sheets? That would be nice, if it works. Do I come across as of the male gender? I had to laugh when you mentioned 'your wife'--I actually am a woman, and the partner in question is my boyfriend. ;) Thanks for providing some welcome advice! |
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I married late in life and simply could not adjust to my husband's restless sleeping patterns, so we went with separate beds early on in our marriage and our marriage is doing just fine. Anytime I wistfully think it would be nice to sleep together I just have to look at his bed in the morning, which looks like a giant egg-beater was taken to it, and then look at mine, where nothing is disturbed except for the dent in my pillow. Talk about opposite ends of the spectrum! It is quite surprising how many couples will admit to sleeping apart once the subject is broached and they don't feel we will judge them for it. Well rested partners make for good marriages, I say. Diane |
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Diane, I fully agree! If it comes down to being exhausted vs being awake, I'll sacrifice the sleeping together. And I too have read about lots of couples sleeping apart. Back in the day, you only slept together if you couldn't afford separate quarters! That said, I'm trying to find an arrangement where i can satisfy my desire to sleep next to him, yet not be disturbed by him. I keep thinking i'll 'grow out of' this sensitivity to motion, but it's been two years now and not much has changed. ;) |
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DianeK wrote: I married late in life and simply could not adjust to my husband's restless sleeping patterns, so we went with separate beds early on in our marriage and our marriage is doing just fine. Anytime I wistfully think it would be nice to sleep together I just have to look at his bed in the morning, which looks like a giant egg-beater was taken to it, and then look at mine, where nothing is disturbed except for the dent in my pillow. Talk about opposite ends of the spectrum! It is quite surprising how many couples will admit to sleeping apart once the subject is broached and they don't feel we will judge them for it. Well rested partners make for good marriages, I say. Diane Electracat, I'm not sure why I just assumed you were male. If it's a name that does not sound either fem. or masculine, I just usually assume the person is male, I guess. To clarify, I think that if you have 2 separate foundations with no springs and just latex, the transfer of motion would be nearly non-existent. Maybe someone who has recently slept this way can comment more authoritatively but as I recall when my wife and I had a King all-latex mattress on the floor, we had no transfer of motion issues. It was the sheets/blanket thing and my wife's kicking, pulling sheets, etc. that made us have to go to separate beds. The latex itself gives virtually no transfer of motion as far as I recall. And yeah, I think if you have two twin or 2 twin extra-long foundations next to each other, you can fit it all with the same sheets and blankets, even the same King latex layers. Unless you require your sheets to fit super tight, you can probably just buy the "deeper" sheets to get it to fit if necessary. A very firm platform should not provide any transfer of motion, I don't think. Again, I'm just speculating based on what I recall but I'd almost be willing to bet on it. Maybe some latex experts or owners can comment. If it does give you motion transfer then just take an electric carving knife and cut the latex, toppers, etc. down the middle and that should reduce it. Even a 1/2 in between the two mattresses should greatly reduce any motion, without really affecting the fitting of loose sheets or blankets, etc. |
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Yes Jim, our spouses' sleeping patterns are identical. Diane |
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Right now we have a platform bed with slats that flex a little. Can i change our current bed to be more motionless, i.e. replacing slats with a solid piece of wood, or replacing the slats themselves? I guess i'd have to check with my boyfriend, since i'm not very good with building, etc. And if that didn't work, we'd get separate beds. Or maybe i can slice the bed down the middle, like with the mattress layers? ;) |
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"Or maybe i can slice the bed down the middle"
I'm picturing electracat with big grin on her face while holding a chainsaw above the bed! hahaha This message was modified Apr 1, 2010 by markbnh1
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Haha! I would SO be grinning! ;) And, i guess the electric knife just wouldn't be enough for this job, huh? ;) |
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electracat wrote: Right now we have a platform bed with slats that flex a little. Can i change our current bed to be more motionless, i.e. replacing slats with a solid piece of wood, or replacing the slats themselves? I guess i'd have to check with my boyfriend, since i'm not very good with building, etc. And if that didn't work, we'd get separate beds. Or maybe i can slice the bed down the middle, like with the mattress layers? ;) Using the same foundation MIGHT be okay, if you can make it stable enough so it doesn't bounce or move in normal sleep. You might try just putting the latex on the floor and see how that works. If that works out okay, then you can look into making your foundation more stable or buying a super stable one. OR, just buy 2 twin box springs - get the kind that are made from all wood, with no springs - and put those right next to each other with your King(?) mattress (I have forgotten what you have) on top of that. This message was modified Apr 1, 2010 by jimsocal
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Jim, thank you for the suggestions. We're going to play around with some things, and i'll let you know how it goes! I have one more question: If we slice the mattress layers (pu foam and one top latex layer) in half, is it possible to glue them back together someday if we wished? I really should have been born into royalty, back in the days of separate quarters...;) thanks! e-cat |
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electracat wrote: Jim, thank you for the suggestions. We're going to play around with some things, and i'll let you know how it goes! I have one more question: If we slice the mattress layers (pu foam and one top latex layer) in half, is it possible to glue them back together someday if we wished? I really should have been born into royalty, back in the days of separate quarters...;) thanks! e-cat Yeah, you can glue them back. If you need to, I'll look up the name of my spray glue that I got from a memory foam place. It works for latex too. Or maybe Budgy can tell us the best kind (?)... But I have my mattress even divided into 1/3's, for the shoulders, hips and legs, and even those don't drift apart if you just put them together, they tend to stay together (without glue). I'd try putting the latex on the floor first. I think the transfer of motion comes more from the foundation than from the foam/latex. Another idea I have is, let's say you buy 2 twin foundations - either box springs with wood as I mentioned or regular all-wood "platform" type foundations with slats. Start out by putting them about 1/2" apart just to stop the transfer of motion from the foundations. Then put the King foam over those, without cutting them. See if that works. If that doesn't work, then cut them in half to make 2 twins or extra long twins or whatever. |
| Thanks! So glad to have your suggestions. :) |
| if you ever want to glue latex layers together you can actually get latex based adhesives, that would probably be best. |
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electracat wrote: Jim, thank you for the suggestions. We're going to play around with some things, and i'll let you know how it goes! I have one more question: If we slice the mattress layers (pu foam and one top latex layer) in half, is it possible to glue them back together someday if we wished? I really should have been born into royalty, back in the days of separate quarters...;) thanks! e-cat The easiest way to "glue" the sections back together might be to get a new mattress cover and just zip it all back inside. Or to really get the feel of a single mattress, splurge on a new topper to lay on top of the split layers. That's what our flobed is and it feels like any other mattress, and though I'm presumably less sensitive than you I don't feel my husband's movement at all. If nothing will allow you to sleep together you can always go to separate beds, but you can do this gradually to discover whether you really need to go that far Why don't you try a step by step approach until you've found your tolerance limit? First, cut the bottom layers in half but keep the top one intact, and leave it on your platform. If you still can't sleep, cut the top one. Then see if you can get a half inch gap on your current foundation. Or put a piece of plywood over the slats to dampen the amount of flex possible. Then separate foundations. Save the pair of new beds for last. Linda |
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markbnh1 wrote: "Or maybe i can slice the bed down the middle"
I'm picturing electracat with big grin on her face while holding a chainsaw above the bed! hahaha Considering Englander all Talalay and Stearns and Foster or Sealy (aren't they made the same... owned by the same parent co?) Anyway.. when discussing hammocking with the owner of The Sleepe Shop chain in So Cal... he said that any king mattress on a frame with the support in the middle will hammock.. it's only logical... SO I am considering getting two twin xlong sets which would be the same size as the eastern king and I could use the same bed linens... Or would those mattresses hammock eventually too ?? |