Sams Club 100% natural latex mattress???
Feb 23, 2010 11:21 PM
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Hello all, first post here but I've learned very much from researching here! Was wondering if anyone has any info/thoughts regarding this mattress. It seems like a good price and besides not being able to change layers out, it is exactly what I'm looking for. The cotton cover is removable but not the wool covering. The latex is made by latexco and is Dunlop according to the guy I spoke with at specialty sleep services. It also comes non rolled up when white glove delivered which I think is a plus. Also made in USA. Considering Sams excellent return policy it seems worth a shot. http://www.samsclub.com/shopping/navigate.do?dest=5&item=457122&pCatg=6804 The naturally contouring and long-lasting resilience of 100% Natural Latex has been combined with the soothing comfort of 100% Organic Cotton and the all season warming & cooling characteristics of 100% Organic Wool to create a heavenly sleep environment like no other. The American Sleep Collection Organic Mattress features a full 9” core of 100% Natural Latex. A 1” Layer of Ultra-Plush (18 ILD) 100% Natural Latex conforms to your body while a 2” Medium-Firm (24 ILD) Cushioning Layer and 6” Ultra-Form 5-Zone (28-32 ILD) Posture Support Layer comprise the High Resilience 100% Natural Latex Progressive Support Substrate Layers for outstanding comfort. Surrounded by a temperature neutral comfort layer of 100% Organic Wool, that naturally wicks away moisture, The American Sleep Collection Organic Mattress is completely covered with 100% Organic Cotton. Foundation optional. The comfort of Cotton is well known and loved. Organic Cotton is cotton that is grown without chemical fertilizers or pesticides from plants which are not genetically modified which makes for a healthier sleep environment. And as Cotton is the only fiber that becomes stronger when wet, it's the preferred choice in hospitals, since it can endure high temperatures and be sterilized. For people concerned with environmental issues, Cotton makes a lot of sense as it is a biodegradable and a renewable resource. Organic Wool is extremely long lasting. It can bend thousands of times without losing form and can evaporate moisture in either a warming or cooling manner allowing it to maintain warmth in the winter and coolness in the summer.
This message was modified Feb 23, 2010 by EBIN
Re: Sams Club 100% natural latex mattress???
Reply #1 Feb 23, 2010 11:51 PM
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I think a couple paragraphs would make this a little easier to read lol. 

A couple things though that are flat out false or exaggerated:

1.  Cotton is weaker when it is wet.  The ONLY vegetable fibre that is stronger when wet is LINEN. 

2.  Wool will bend several hundred times but not a few thousand times before it can be damaged.

I certainly am not beating up on the benefits of these fibres as I believe they really should be used in every mattress however in the interest of truth I just had to comment on those couple things.

EDIT:  I should also mention that I sincerely question whether the wool that is used is organic since they claim the cover is machine washable.  Wool CANNOT be machine washed unless it has been descaled chemically which would render it non-organic even if it was organically grown. 
This message was modified Feb 23, 2010 by budgy
Re: Sams Club 100% natural latex mattress???
Reply #2 Feb 24, 2010 12:07 AM
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Yeah I edited the post I agree it was a little hard to read lol! I was told the outer cotton cover is the only part that is removable and the wool is under that and non removable. That's somthing I'm not too crazy about but I guess it's possible to take the outer cotton cover off and maybe put the mattress with the wool in the sun to kill dust mites? I don't know, that would probably not work and might acually damage the mattress?
Re: Sams Club 100% natural latex mattress???
Reply #3 Feb 24, 2010 1:34 AM
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that makes a little more sense.  however I would still be weary of these organic claims based on the photos available, and the lack of certification.  looks like they are glueing these different layers one on top of another and the mattress covering does not really look like organic cotton.  organic cotton can only look that white if its a velour style covering but this looks woven and organic cotton should be really off white when it is not bleached.  maybe the photos are just poor photos.  but again most claims of organic without certification are some what useless.  that being said for a natural latex core that thick with a decent covering is not so bad.
Re: Sams Club 100% natural latex mattress???
Reply #4 Feb 25, 2010 9:54 PM
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Well I was waiting for the costco latex bed to go back on sale but then I saw this at sams club. It seems to be better quality than the costco model, although more expensive. It's made in the USA by a company called Innomax. I was told the organic cover is certified so maybe there would be some paperwork that comes with it, the glue used is made by a company called saba, the guy said Its non toxic and you could eat it if you wanted to. To me it seems much better compared to the costco bed but I'm no expert and I'm not sure it's worth the extra money. I belive someone said the costco bed was $1500 for a king with foundation while this one is $1900 just for the bed alone. Do you experts out there think it's worth the extra cash?
Re: Sams Club 100% natural latex mattress???
Reply #5 Feb 25, 2010 10:19 PM
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seeing as how they are using a cotton and wool cover instead of polyester like the costco one, yes I am gonna go ahead and say it sounds like it is actually worth the extra money. 
Re: Sams Club 100% natural latex mattress???
Reply #6 Jul 13, 2010 12:14 PM
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Does anybody know if Sam's Club changed their 100% latex mattress?  It seems that it now has a bamboo cover rather than wool/cotton.  That change makes me wonder if other important factors have been changed.

Thoughts?

http://www.samsclub.com/sams/shop/product.jsp?productId=prod862201&navAction=push

Like a lot of folks, it seems, I'm trying to decide between the Coscto 100% latex in king and the Sam's Club 100% latex in king.  Both seem to have their merits and are priced about the same right now.  I do like that the Costco one is flippable to different firmness levels.  And there certainly are a lot more reviews of the Costco mattress.  I've read through all of the  posts on the subject, but I'm still not sure which way to go.

I'm also considering the Simmons Natural Care Forevergreen Cushion Firm from JC Penney, mostly because we have a JC Penney Home store in the area and I can take the husband there for a test drive of the mattress.  The price in the store is comparable to Costco and Sam's.

Husband still isn't convinced about the benefits of latex, so he definitely needs to lay on one first. 

Any and all advice is appreciated.

Re: Sams Club 100% natural latex mattress???
Reply #7 Jul 13, 2010 12:45 PM
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I spent quite a bit of time reviewing this bed on their website and also visited the website of the manufacturer and the Latexco website as well.  I reached the conclusion that this is a very high quality latex mattress and a much better value than the Costco latex mattress many are purchasing.  The foundation looks excellent as well.  I wouldn't hesitate to purchase this set.  If you do, I hope you will report back to the forum over a period of weeks and let us know how you like it.

I was actually on the point of ordering it when I switched gears and bought my daughter a Sleepez latex mattress instead.  I've been happy (or at least, my daughter is happy) with the Sleepez mattress, but I still think this Sam's Club mattress is a hidden gem.

Oh, I just noticed this post is dated February 2010!  How'd this get bumped up to the top?

This message was modified Jul 13, 2010 by KimberlyH
Re: Sams Club 100% natural latex mattress???
Reply #8 Jul 13, 2010 1:22 PM
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I bumped up the post because I was questioning the apparent change in the cover materials in the Sam's Club latex mattress (See my post at the bottom of the thread). 

Did you check out the link to see if you noticed any differences from when you were researching?  When I click on the old link for the mattress with the wool/cotton cover, it's not there anymore.

Re: Sams Club 100% natural latex mattress???
Reply #9 Jul 14, 2010 12:58 AM
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I haven't been to the Sam's Club website in a few months, but it seems to me the last time I checked I didn't see the wool/cotton version either.  That is the model I would have purchased, but I still think the other one offered by Sam's Club is a better quality product and value than the Costco one.  You could try calling Sam's Club and see if they still have it or will order it.

I wouldn't buy it directly from Innomax, as I recall (memory fuzzy here) they did not have a great return policy, the price was much higher, and the salesman was a slimeball.

Re: Sams Club 100% natural latex mattress???
Reply #10 Aug 9, 2010 6:18 PM
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For bert76 and kimberlyh:

The original all-latex mattress is still there at Sam's Club - just try a search for "American Sleep Organic". For example:

http://www.samsclub.com/sams/shop/product.jsp?productId=prod865236

which is still the same as

http://www.innomax.com/index.php?crn=243&action=show

The "American Sleep Eco-Green" mattress seems to be the rebranded Allura line also from Innomax:

http://www.innomax.com/?crn=229&action=show

According to the descriptions (they are identical at Innomax and Sam's) this one is a 3" Talalay latex topper with HR foam core. It's also $560 cheaper than the all-latex mattress ($1338 vs. $1898 for King). Is the HR foam core really much worse than the latex core?

Also, the Costco's current price of $1599 for the all-latex King is $300 lower than Sam's - is this really a fair reflection of difference in quality? (putting foundation issues aside and comparing just the mattresses themselves)

I'm just starting my quest for a new mattress, and found this forum with so much useful info - thank you all!

 

 

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