Mattress Forum

I've seen the Tempurpedic foundations - all wood perimeter and solid platform.  They seem much better than above.

Bottom line - I'm not impressed at all with iComfort box spring.  it will be sold soon.

So here is my opinion and you can argue the facts all day long ,but I am thorough. The main problem I have seen with this product is the way its memory foam is made. First they start with taking sheets of gel and chop it down into small pieces. They than put these chunks of gel and mix it into there memory foam(liquid state). Here is the problem. Lets say I was making blueberry  pancakes. I start out with some bisquick and follow the directions to make 10-12 pancakes. I then take 80 blueberries and pour it into this batter. I cook up 10 pancakes and serve them. None of my pancakes have the same number of blueberries damn. same thing with this gel and it is noticeable after laying on about four different floor models of each make. End all it's very inconsistent and I can tell that in areas of each of the models I have checked out where there are hardspots where more gel is concentrated into a certain area and soft spots where none or not much gel was.

Secondly it has been said but i will say it again. The only way Gel would have a cooling affect is in a full gel layer on top so it could disperse the heat but at that time you would be making it difficult for the memory foam below to breathe. So it kind of defeats the purpose as the memory foam would still be taking in the heat dispersed off the gel although it would be alot less heat than if you were directly on the MF. So the ony true way that the can keep from have a MF that sleeps hot is to have a breathable(open cell structure) MF or better air venting under the foam.

Good idea but it's not practicle or consistent. They will get it right one day and I know that most of them are going out just fine but the ones that are returning are the ones that have recieved far less or far more gel chunks than the one they loved in the store.

the freakin' law tag is not even sewn into the cover of the mattress ... it is stuck like a Post-It onto a tag that is sewn into the cover of the mattress. In other words, one could easily peel off a tag and stick on another (like at the mfr., retailer, wherever)

I have a photo of it if anyone is that curious.  

Isn't actual law tag supposed to be sewn into the mattress cover (or pillow, etc...)?

I had the foundation standing on end.  I could see the underside rods at the surface, clearly - they are tweaked and sagging right in the middle of the bed.  I weigh only 195 lbs and I used the foundation for 5 weeks total. 

The Stearns and Foster foundation with my entry level mattress was really sturdy at the surface.  They go for $260 + tax.

These iComfort twin boxes are $150 .  Don't waste your time on them, IMO. 

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I'm a little off in the post above.  All the 'S' brand 'box springs' use the same basic 'semi-flex' constuction.  and I believe they all get the components from Legget and Platt.  A Stearns and Foster 'box spring' should be just the same as the iComfort Stabl base.  The S&F might have a thicker gage rods.  That I'm not sure about.

There are fancy foundations like 'Microtek' and 'Ultrasteel' but those are sold with reallly high end beds like Silver Dream S&F.

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So, the iComfort 'box spring' is a little bent in places, but it's remaining the same at this point.

fail, says don't sink in too much - wrong.  That was the first thing  I noticed laying on it ..... sink

says superior pressure relief - fail.  Sinking right down through it, I could feel the pushback I'm trying to eliminate in the latex mattress.

Breathable comfort, never too warm ... wrong, fail.  I was ... hot last night.  Not sweating, but hot.  You wouldn't want to be that hot either.  so, fail there too.

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This all looks like knock off, I guess Tempurpedic wannabee stuff.  Thing that gets me is there is no airflow system in iComfort or this topper,.  Where does the warm air go?  All the way down though the layers of foam?  sideways?  There's not even convoluted foam to dissipate the heat sideways.  At least Tempurpedic has that.

Anyway, I have a king iComfort Insight with new box springs arriving Tuesday (8/21). I can hardly wait - as my18 year old spring mattress with a memory foam topper has gotten so bad that my back and my sleep are greatly affected. I'm embarrassed to admit the age of it on this of all sites.

At any rate, I intend on providing my feedback and experience. But, this is a major change in a sleep system for me. I'm both nervous and excited because of my lack of sleep. I live in TN and apparently there is absolutely no comfort guarantee for any mattress manufacturer. Which, I guess, has some advantages? For example, my mattress is actually being made in Alabama tomorrow - one day prior to its arrival, meaning no one else has used it and returned it, a practice I loathe to even consider is possible... I got mine on sale with the free box springs for $1,277.

After reading this site I went to Sam's. We don't have a CostCo membership - but, they did have a Serta memory foam gel mattress under the Serta brand - made by Sleep Innovations. They only had a small square out there to look at. It is a bed in a box. They vacuum seal that thing into a pretty small cube - amazing! But, with the small square on display - it definitely had much more give than the Serta mattress in the store where we purchased ours. I mean - a major difference in the density. I realize there must be some who would disagree with this - but, there was absolutely a major "spongy" feel to the 2x2 square in Sam's vs. the one from where we purchased. I don't know if it matters or not - but, wouldn't shrink wrapping that thing into a small cube have some potential issue with the glues? I don't know, but it's likely.

I also noticed the mattress cover on the iComfort was superior to the Sam's version. Not a big deal - but, it is different. It is my personal opinion that the Sam's (CostCo?) Serta / Sleep Innovations versions are not identical to the iComfort line. I think they have two supply chains to be competitive. It is my opinion that the Sam's / CostCo version may be of a lesser density and lesser quality than their higher end lines - but, they aren't garbage or anything. I think if I wasn't so daggone sore and tired of my current mattress I would have bought one of those instead. You could get two of those over 10 years for the same price I paid... so, we'll see. But, I'm happy with the purchase in my mind so far. But, I haven't yet tried it in my own home yet. After my wife and I visited Sam's and looked at it - we both agreed we would stay with the iComfort. We then went back to the place where we purchased it - and confirmed our decision. Oh please get here Tuesday...

I also bought some pillow wedges for underneath my legs and for my back from Relax your Back. I read every night before going to sleep. Now that I have been using those in bed - I can already tell a huge difference. I must have been going into my sleep already crunched up or something because my back has been killing me lately. So, the combined issue of preparing for sleep by reading improperly supported along with my terrible mattress - well, it's been kinda bad lately.

I am confident my purchase will be a welcomed improvement over my existing bed for sure - and I am thankful for the blessing to change. We looked at Sleep Number, Pillow-Top, Water, and foam - and chose the Serta iComfort after about a week of testing different items. If my prayers are answered with this - I will be such an improved individual :-)

I also recently purchased a new mattress which started sagging after 5 weeks,  which is how I found this site. I had no idea there were so many choices. I say my old mattress was 15 years old, but it was really closer to 18 years old as well. I just didn't like saying that! The bed world has changed a lot since people like you and me were last shopping for mattresses, hasn't it? And not for the better, sadly. No longer do you get better quality the more you spend, in the case of spring mattresses at least.

You'll get wonderful advice, tips and pointers from the very knowledgeable people on this site and hopefully a good night's sleep on your new bed!