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We have owned the S&F Plaza Ambassador since 2007. It is a pillowtop mostly latex bed that was a compromise purchase as my wife is a lighter side sleeper and I a heavier mostly back sleeper. As you would suspect she is comfortable with the bed while I have developed back pain and felt like I was sleeping in a hammock for the past year. As we measured the top and found no real measurable depressions without weight on the bed we decided to cut it open and see what we could do. (I blame this website for giving me the idea to cut it open ha ha!) We cut the pillowtop at the base and left the top side connected and openned it like a sardine can. The pillowtop is a nice quilted top stuffed with some sort of cotton padding. Below that was made up of a 3/4-7/8" piece of latex, slightly less than 1.5" of foam, and a 1/2" piece of latex. Below that is the base and it appears to be one 10" block of latex. As we are trying to figure out what to order we tried a few things. The first night we slept on just the base and the actual pillow top with the latex-foam-latex pillowtop filler removed. I liked it because I didn't hammock but it was a little to firm as my shoulder where a little sore. Of course my wife hated it. The second night we put the thickest comforter we had on like a pillow top and it helper her a little but naturally not enough. The third(last) night I seperated the two latex layers from the foam that where in the pillow top. They were only glued at the edges. We then put these back into the pillow top and removed the thick comforter. This feels really nice when we first lay in it, but still wasn't soft enough for my wife...and my lower back pain came back. I don't know the ILD of any of these layers...does anyone have any idea what S&F used in this line? So I am looking for a basic suggestion of what ILD to order for me. As my wife was happy with the old bed we are considerring cutting the pieces that we don't use in common into TwinXL's and use on her side. Me: 6'2", 225lbs winter - 200lbs summer, back sleeper and occasional side sleeper. Her: 5'6", 130lbs, side sleeper. SleepEZ website puts me in 36-44 ILD layers, but they show some sort of topper that I assume is a soft comfort layer. As we are dealing with an unknown base layer it's hard for me to match. I am thinking of a firm dunlop layer (1-1.5"), and a medium talay 1" layer, and reusing one of our latex layers as the top piece. Been looking at orderring from SleepEZ. Any advice appreciated.
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I did surgery on a S&F from about the same time that developed massive depressions (although still 30% away from what the manufacturer considered defective). I found that the quilted pillowtop cover was the biggest reason for the depressions. I had planned on keeping it. The eggcrate foam was the next biggest reason.
I would just recommending ordering foam in thinner slices - nothing more than 2" and 1" slices for getting the final adjustments right. You may need different solutions for each side of the bed since there is such a big weight difference between you. |