Greetings:

I am shopping for a new mattress and narrow down to 2 type, Latex $1600 (Dr Breus, no specification found) and memory foam Queen Supreme comfort (Sleep Science) ~ $2400 without frame.

The Sleep Science specification seems to be superior to Tempur Pedic in density and offer a 20 years warranty sagging equivalent to TP.  I can't find any specification for Dr Breus and am not sure if the mattress has several layers of Latex or has a core foam then the top layer is latex. 

My wife and I weight about ~120 lbs each.  Since we are both side and back sleeper (50/50), I lean toward the memory foam.  Thinking that it will allow more sinking thus having a better posture.  Is my assumption wrong?  I have tried a memory foam and Dr Breus mattress at a local Sleepys store and it seems to confirm my above theory (memory foam allow more sinking).  I feel less pressure when turning to the side on a memory foam than a latex mattress.  Is this just my imagination or a fact?

My family also has Tempur Pedic mattress and I heard they complaint about the heat issue which doesn't bother me and sagging.  However, I can't afford their mattress due to the price ~$4000.

Any comment to help me pick the right one is greatly appreciated.

Queen Supreme Comfort

 

• Mattress core top layer: 2.5" 7-lb visco foam (plushest layer)
• Second layer: 1" 6-lb visco foam
• Third layer: 3" plush 5-lb visco foam
• Overall mattress thickness is 14.5"
• Meets the requirements of 16 CFR Part 1633 Federal flammability (open flame) standards
• Patented wedge, edge to edge support system which provides 20% more sleeping surface, prevents sagging, and extends the life of the mattress
• 8" patent pending Air Channel base helps air circulate and keeps the mattress as temperature neutral as possible

Couple of comments.

Comparing the Dr Breuse or a latex mattress to a memory foam mattress can be a little misleading. I seriously doubt though that the Dr Breus even could be called a latex mattress since it probably (almost certainly) has a fair bit of poly in the top where it counts. I also doubt that what it feels like is indicative of what a decent latex mattress feels like. If you want a more appropriate latex testing ground at Sleepy's then the latex bliss would be a much better representation of a "latex mattress". No matter what you found using Sleepy's as a testing ground ... I would seriously look at your many other options if you are thinking about using them as anything but a way to test different materials.

The Sleep Science has a LOT (6.5") of memory foam in it and while the memory foam is denser ... all that really means is that you will keep sinking in more slowly than a mattress that has less dense layers of memory foam. You probably also wouldn't sink in quite as far but this is debateable and depends on the specific qualities of the memory foams used (you will sink into honey more slowly than water for example but you will get to the bottom in both cases). In my opinion, there is too much memory foam in it to allow for proper alignment for most people and what could feel perfect as you were going to sleep would end up being less so over the course of the night. From a material commodity perspective and knowing Costco, you are probably getting good value per inch of memory foam ... but getting a "relatively" good price on something that is not appropriate is questionable. At least Costco has a great return policy if you don't like it over time.

Warranties (especially the longer ones) are more about marketing and impressing consumers who believe that they really mean anything. They do protect you from manufacturing defects that tend to show up early but beyond this it is pretty much impossible to actually benefit from them. Almost all "warranty issues" are denied as being part of the "normal characteristics" of a mattress (and for many other reasons) and are pretty much useless later on no matter how long they may be.

I personally wouldn't buy either. Dr Breus is an expensive lower value mattress (IMO) and the Sleep Science looks great on "paper" but just doesn't seem well thought out. Of course your own personal experience combined with Costco's return policy would be a great way to actually test this out.

There are a couple of other recent threads with people's experiences and thoughts about different latex mattresses at sleepy's that would probably be well worth reading.

Phoenix

If I was going to buy a memory foam mattress (which of course I'm not), it would look something like this http://www.chirosleeper.com/chirosleeper-diagram.htm

An inch of latex either on top of or instead of the 8lb Venus would probably be nice too.

I have no idea how much this costs (emailed them a few minutes ago) but elsewhere on their website they say it can be customized as well. Relief mart itself has been around for a while and is BBB accredited with an A rating (meaning they are more likely to work with you if you have some problems). The foams look like they are probably Foamex Venus and Sensus which if true are very good memory foams.

Phoenix

Phoenix wrote:

Thank you all for your valuable comments and help.

As for the BBB rating, it was on the news a couple days ago that if the company pays a certain amount of subscription they will be rated as A or A+.  If you don't pay, you will get a very low rate.  So, I am not sure that we can reliably use BBB as a guide.

That's very true ... they are a private for profit company that tends to down rate companies that don't choose to become a member but if a company does choose to become a member and shows evidence that they are taking care of customer complaints, then it does give one indication that they have some concern about customer satisfaction. It also gives you leverage if something does go wrong.

Phoenix

PS: if you've had a chance to read the other thread you will see it's been confirmed that the Dr Breus is almost all poly with just a bit of latex in it ... 20%

I don't think 6.5" of memory foam would work for me, even with some of it being fairly high density.  I am pretty sure I would sink in too far, so not enough lower back support.   You both are much lighter than me, so that probably would help.

 I tried one of the Sleep Science that had 2" of 5lb memory foam, and the quality seemed pretty good.  It is also pretty unusual to use the high density memory foams they do.   It seems similier to the TP Allura, which I liked laying on for 10 minutes.  Not sure how it would work over night.

The reviewers on the Costco website seem to like it, and Costco has the best return policy around.  The one I bought ended up being too firm.  I returned it, and it did not cost me a thing.  Have you slept on your family's TP?  What model is it?  I would try laying on something like the Allura as long as you can, to see how you like it.

If your family doesn't like their mattress, they should give you a much better price.  No way they can sell it used for what they paid for it.

FWIW ... I decided I didn't want to wait for an email with the information about the chirosleeper so I called them back.

The 8lb visco is Foamex Venus (was hoping he would surprise me and say it was Aerus as I haven't seen it in 8lb anywhere)

The 5lb visco is Foamex Sensus

It can be purchased without going through a chiropractor and he quoted me $1800 for a queen which I would assume is not their "best price" since it wasn't a serious "I'm buying it now" conversation.

Seems reasonable to me ... at least in comparison to other good quality memory foam mattresses ... considering it is using what I consider to be top tier memory foams and also has 3" of talalay.

Phoenix

Sleep Science memory foam mattress is manufactured by SOUTH BAY INTERNATIONAL.

I purchased the  Supreme 14.5" mattress through a reseller and had it freighted to my home. After a few months while re-arranging my bedroom I tore the cover. I was very disappointed. So, I started the process of finding and ordering one. I contacted SOUTH BAY INTERNATIONAL, who still makes the bed for resellers, and tried to order the replacement for my $2100 SOUTH BAY INTERNATIONAL mattress. At first I was told that the cover was not available. I became irritated and told them that I was going to what I am doing here, let everyone know that South Bay International does not support it's products or customers. I was told to hold one minute and was then forwarded to Diana. Diana  promised me that the cover would be in within 8 weeks. So I wait the 8 weeks and call back and speak to Diana again.

Diana tells me that she ordered the cover but they did not come in..." they don't make them anymore". Don't make them any more?  I just bought the bed and if I go to the SOUTH BAY INTERNATIONAL'S website  http://southbayinternational.com/ss_supreme.php I see you are STILL making the mattress. It is still being marketed by you but you are not going to help me?  She replied "what do you want me to do? they don't make it anymore!"  What a rude and uncaring corporation...a bad way to run a business. I pray you do not find yourself in the same predicament I am in at this point. So I felt it necessary to let everyone know how they do business.


Very unhappy customer