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proof1st


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Latex split layers
Original Message   Apr 20, 2011 9:52 pm
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For those with latex mattresses with split core layers for individual comfort on each side - is there ever an issue with the seam between the two sides? Do the pieces ever move around on you, does it open up a little, or can you feel the seam when lying on it?
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proof1st


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Re: Latex split layers
Reply #7   Jun 28, 2011 9:32 pm
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How much would you say the mattress cover contributes to the cores staying together - would a stretchy cover like terry cloth work, or would you need a firmer tighter cover, like quilted cotton?
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Re: Latex split layers
Reply #8   Jun 28, 2011 11:39 pm
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Proof1st, I am not sure since I always slept with the latex cores inside my zippered cover but I know they are heavy and a tight fit.
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Re: Latex split layers
Reply #9   Jun 29, 2011 5:02 pm
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For those interested, per a conversation with SleepEZ, they recommend a 1-piece top layer if you choose their stretch cover instead of the quilted cover. This would be to eliminate feeling the seam, because they say there wouldnt be any movement of layers being rubber, and heavy, etc.
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Re: Latex split layers
Reply #10   Jun 30, 2011 12:28 am
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From my disgruntled opinion of complete latex beds, you can completely feel the seam.

With the convoluted topper and the fabric covering, you can even frequently see the seam. You lay on one side of it, it pushes that latex core down, and it 'sticks' up against the one next to it.  You get off the bed, it stays stuck, and you have a distinct line running down your bed.

In my opinion, I feel like I 'fall' towards the middle of the bed where the cores come together down the middle.

I hate it and have been trying to tolerate it for almost two years now.

Chris

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Re: Latex split layers
Reply #11   Jun 30, 2011 9:27 am
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texfire wrote:

From my disgruntled opinion of complete latex beds, you can completely feel the seam.

 

With the convoluted topper and the fabric covering, you can even frequently see the seam. You lay on one side of it, it pushes that latex core down, and it 'sticks' up against the one next to it.  You get off the bed, it stays stuck, and you have a distinct line running down your bed.

In my opinion, I feel like I 'fall' towards the middle of the bed where the cores come together down the middle.

I hate it and have been trying to tolerate it for almost two years now.

Chris


Chris - sorry to hear of your experience - but thanks for posting. Its funny that Ive searched this forum for info on the very issue you are having, yet never found your previous posts. I was suprised that more people dont have a problem with the seam, I assumed it had to be a problem sometimes.

Sounds like you have a FloBed with the convoluted topper over the split cores - and you have a quilted cover?

Have you tried a full 3" layer in one piece over the split cores? Maybe that would help, being more substatial than the convoluted layer. I think that is basically what sleepez recommended when using a stretchy cover - the top layer, full thickness, with no seam.

Thanks again for posting - your experience needs to be added to the mix of factors for those considering a split core mattress. Hope you can find a solution!

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Re: Latex split layers
Reply #12   Jun 30, 2011 5:01 pm
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proof1st wrote:

Chris - sorry to hear of your experience - but thanks for posting. Its funny that Ive searched this forum for info on the very issue you are having, yet never found your previous posts. I was suprised that more people dont have a problem with the seam, I assumed it had to be a problem sometimes.

Sounds like you have a FloBed with the convoluted topper over the split cores - and you have a quilted cover?

Have you tried a full 3" layer in one piece over the split cores? Maybe that would help, being more substatial than the convoluted layer. I think that is basically what sleepez recommended when using a stretchy cover - the top layer, full thickness, with no seam.

Thanks again for posting - your experience needs to be added to the mix of factors for those considering a split core mattress. Hope you can find a solution!


Hi,

I do have a Flobed with the convoluted topper over the split cores. My cover is whatever comes standard that zips around the edge.  It's fine quality, but not thick.

I've talked to Flobed about it and they recommended I use Spray adhesive to laminate the two cores together.  I tried it.  It's unwiedly and difficult to get lined up properly so I ended up not with 100% adhesion.  It didn't help much and when I re-opened my bed, parts had come apart and parts were still stuck together.  I'm sure I did a sub-par job of putting them together... but you can't do it in the bed, cause adhesive gets on the layers underneath, so I tried to do it on the kitchen floor and protect the floor with paper and it was just a mess.  

I'm unaware there is a 3 inch solid layer I can lay across (at least in a CA King).  So I haven't tried that.

This bothers me but moreso that I can't find the combo of layers that works for me.  I have med/firm/superfirm layers and several of each and can't get something that doesn't hurt my low back but also feels comfortable to lay on, back and side.  At the moment, I'm firm and trying to go softer.  Now I'm F/F/SF and will probably switch to M/F/SF, although last time I did M/F/F it hurt my back.  Nevertheless Flobeds has been responsive to listening to me bitch and they've offered suggestions.  Unfortunately, every time I go to a hotel, I feel much better at first and in the morning in the hotel bed.  It's either real, or I have a psychological problem which is affecting my judgement.  I think it's about to be unsolvable, so I'm looking into innerspring beds, or combo innerspring with latex.  However, they don't talk much about those here and I can't find any good place to separate the good from the bad (if there is good).

 

Chris

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Re: Latex split layers
Reply #13   Jun 30, 2011 6:41 pm
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Well I know you can get the seamless layers in that size, if you want to try that route (they can be pricey in Cal King):

http://www.sleepez.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/27/products_id/156

http://www.sleeplikeabear.com/product/TX-02-CK

And of course Flobeds has the components of their mattresses - even if they don't normally do a non-split core, their suppliers make them, so they can get them - I would try to keep working with Flobeds.

Flobeds Medium is 28 ILD, so there is room to go softer. Have you tried a soft top layer? - and I dont mean the convoluted - I would disregard that since its not helping you.  I would ask Flobeds to send you a soft 19 ILD 3" layer with no seam. They say they work with you till youre happy - and for the money you spend they should.

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Re: Latex split layers
Reply #14   Jul 1, 2011 5:01 pm
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proof1st wrote:

Well I know you can get the seamless layers in that size, if you want to try that route (they can be pricey in Cal King):

 

http://www.sleepez.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/27/products_id/156

http://www.sleeplikeabear.com/product/TX-02-CK

And of course Flobeds has the components of their mattresses - even if they don't normally do a non-split core, their suppliers make them, so they can get them - I would try to keep working with Flobeds.

Flobeds Medium is 28 ILD, so there is room to go softer. Have you tried a soft top layer? - and I dont mean the convoluted - I would disregard that since its not helping you.  I would ask Flobeds to send you a soft 19 ILD 3" layer with no seam. They say they work with you till youre happy - and for the money you spend they should.


When you say 'soft top layer', do you mean replacing the convoluted or putting it where?  As for working with me, they are, but it's not like I'm getting free components to keep trying.  There's a cost (discounted though it is).  The question is how much to keep spending...

Chris

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Re: Latex split layers
Reply #15   Jul 1, 2011 6:16 pm
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texfire wrote:


When you say 'soft top layer', do you mean replacing the convoluted or putting it where?  As for working with me, they are, but it's not like I'm getting free components to keep trying.  There's a cost (discounted though it is).  The question is how much to keep spending...

Chris


I was referring to the 3" layer under the convoluted layer, assuming your bed is set up as I understand it - with three 3" layers and the convuluted on top. I dont know what youve tried already, but it sounded like you had medium and firmer to work with. Maybe the pressure point relief of a full 3" of soft beneath the convoluted would help.

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Re: Latex split layers
Reply #16   Jul 9, 2011 12:10 am
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proof1st wrote:

 

For those with latex mattresses with split core layers for individual comfort on each side - is there ever an issue with the seam between the two sides? Do the pieces ever move around on you, does it open up a little, or can you feel the seam when lying on it?



You may feel the seam if the 2 sides are of different ILD's. Personally I just avoid laying in the middle where the seam is. ;-D

I've use zoned latex - latex pieces cut into thirds for my feet, lumbar and shoulders - and never felt the seams were a problem. They move a little from time to time but unless it's right where you are putting the weight of your shoulder or butt or such, you are not likely to feel it. Obviously some do feel it but I think most do not.

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