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AKgirl


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First Time Buying a Mattress
Original Message   Jan 18, 2011 1:30 pm
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I am currently sleeping on a conventional full mattress that is approx. 6 or 7 years old.  I was not involved in the shopping process for it, but I suspect what my parents did was buy the most inexpensive firm mattress they could find....and it's very firm.  I do seem to prefer firm mattresses.

Now, my fiance (who also prefers a firm mattress) and I are shopping for a queen size bed to put in our new place.  We have been to most of the stores available in town and are zeroing in on the following mattress.  It seems to be an offbrand because I can't find reviews on it anywhere.  What I am concerned about is the integrity of the mattress over the comming years.  We are 5'8" and 5'10" and both weigh over 195 lbs. Will the mattress break down quicker than another that could be purchased in the $1000-$1500 price range?

 

ReNu 4: Roll Packed!
• 8.25" SOY-POLY SUPPORT CORE
• 1.0" NATURAL TALALAY SUPPORT LATEX
• 3.57" NATURAL TALALAY LATEX THERMAL CORE CONSISTING OF:
• 1.0" TEMPERATURE CONTROL CELSION NATURAL LATEX
• .75" COOL FLOW VENTILATION SYSTEM
• KNIT FIRE BARRIER INNER COVER
• STRECH ZIPPER COVER: BAMBOO
• WARRANTY: 10 YEARS NPR

 

We would be purchasing it from a Mattress Ranch.
 

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AKgirl


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Re: First Time Buying a Mattress
Reply #1   Jan 18, 2011 4:54 pm
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Upon further research, it appears that many on this forum are not fans of poly support cores. 

 

Does anyone have experience with the soy-poly? 

It seems like the 4.5" combined Talalay support latex is a lot for a bed that is not a pure latex bed, will this make up for the poly support core? 

Also, with this make up, would we be in danger of having severe indenting due to foam break down?

Sall


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Re: First Time Buying a Mattress
Reply #2   Jan 18, 2011 6:49 pm
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AKgirl wrote:

Upon further research, it appears that many on this forum are not fans of poly support cores. 

 

Does anyone have experience with the soy-poly? 

It seems like the 4.5" combined Talalay support latex is a lot for a bed that is not a pure latex bed, will this make up for the poly support core? 

Also, with this make up, would we be in danger of having severe indenting due to foam break down?


You are correct about the poly foam support layers and, yes, they probably will break down sooner.  My king size "S" brand broke down within a year so much that it hurt my back to sleep on it and the top layer was poly foam so...I have my biases.

Cost is not the only factor unless you are looking at just a short term bed.  On the other hand, spending a lot on a mattress doesn't guarantee anything either.  Therefore, many here have spent more on their mattresses initially but expect them to last 10 to 20 years or at least more than the "S" brand sale mattresses you see in many stores (and that most of us bought before we came here).  There are stores with latex beds, and if you are looking for suggestions, I would start there.  Some folks here like the memory foam too....but not me....because they have their issues too.  There are some great posts on this site about the differences and strengths of each.  It's not clear from your post, what the ILD's of the latex in the mattress and that would affect it's comfort.  Also, whether you are a back, side or stomach sleeper makes a big difference in the thicknesses of the comfort layers of latex or whatever is used.  I must say, that in the 10 months or so that I have been following this forum, I haven't seen much about soy-poly support cores.  Most here either use inner springs or latex as the core.

AKgirl


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Re: First Time Buying a Mattress
Reply #3   Jan 18, 2011 7:49 pm
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Sall,

Thanks for the response.  We are both side sleepers.  Im not sure what you mean by ILDs

one problem we are having is the only stores we really have available to us are Sadlers home Furnishings, Sams club, and Mattress Ranch....so basically a bunch of "s" brand mattresses.  Our location is so remote that having a mattress shipped in would practically double the cost of the mattress.

This is a link to the other mattress we liked http://www.samsclub.com/sams/shop/product.jsp?productId=prod1260487&navAction=push (I think).

 

Basically we need to get the best that is available to us in the area.  is it better to go with a latex and soy - poly core or an "s" brand?

Cowboy


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Re: First Time Buying a Mattress
Reply #4   Jan 18, 2011 11:30 pm
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Goggle latex Alaska.  I quickly found at least one mattress company in Anchorage.  I refrained from initially responding due to not knowing your local market because it just costs more to get stuff to AK.  I thought the mattress you linked was very expensive for the lower 48.  To answer your question, I don't think there is a problem of using a good quality poly foam for the support layers, but it should reflect the use of it in the final pricing.  It becomes more of a problem in the comfort layers where it's known to breakdown comparatlvely quickly and leave you with a hard support core to sleep on.  You get much better value using latex as a rule, even if you should have to pay more up front.  You mentioned you were  both side sleepers but didn't mention your other vitals, such as height and weight.  It may help us to recommend something for your style of sleeping.  If you had some knowledge of what was comfortable for you in mattresses, you could possibly ship in a latex mattress from the lower 48.  The mattress you referenced is typical of the industrys' verbage leaving a lot to the imagination as to what is really in the comfort layers.  The "consists of 3.57" description doesn't add up for me in terms of inches of support material nor can I know what COOL FLOW VENTILATION SYSTEM really is.  The other parts look pretty good to me if the price is in the fair market value in terms of where you are located.

best of luck

Cowboy
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AKgirl


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Re: First Time Buying a Mattress
Reply #5   Jan 19, 2011 1:50 pm
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Cowboy,

I live in Fairbanks which is a good 7-8 hours north of Anchorage.  Things are quite expensive up here.  The serta I linked is inexpensive for the area and just over half the price of the latex one we are considering (which is no where near the most expensive we have looked at).

 

As far as our vitals, he is 5'10" and around 195...I am 5'8" and well over 200.  We are pretty much exclusively side sleepers.

 

Here is the link to the Latex mattress I initially referenced.  http://www.mattressranch.com/mattresses/swedarenu.html#renu4

 

I really appreciate all of the advice!

Sall


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Re: First Time Buying a Mattress
Reply #6   Jan 19, 2011 3:56 pm
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AKgirl wrote:

Cowboy,

I live in Fairbanks which is a good 7-8 hours north of Anchorage.  Things are quite expensive up here.  The serta I linked is inexpensive for the area and just over half the price of the latex one we are considering (which is no where near the most expensive we have looked at).

 

As far as our vitals, he is 5'10" and around 195...I am 5'8" and well over 200.  We are pretty much exclusively side sleepers.

 

Here is the link to the Latex mattress I initially referenced.  http://www.mattressranch.com/mattresses/swedarenu.html#renu4

 

I really appreciate all of the advice!


Sams does sell some latex mattresses and I realize they are more expensive but they may be worth the price difference but everyone's situation is different.  Also,  you may want to review some of the many posts by Phoenix by searching for his name for an overwhelming amount of information about latex mattresses other foams. 

Here are a couple where he lists on-line sources for latex and they come compressed so shipping may not be as expensive as a normal mattress.

http://www.whatsthebest-mattress.com/forum/my-mattress-arrived/15666-0-1.html

http://www.whatsthebest-mattress.com/forum/?search=1&string=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.customsleepdesign.com%2F&x=25&y=8

Post #9 of :    http://www.whatsthebest-mattress.com/forum/my-quest-new-mattress/16650-A-1.html

These posts and reviewing others will be good starting places to consider.  Unfortunately, you missed getting specific assistance from Phoenix by a couple of days but there is still a wealth of information on this forum that can be helpful to newcomers.  It may take a while to read it all since he had over 800 posts last time I looked.  I don't have his energy or information to be able to read them all.

Cowboy


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Re: First Time Buying a Mattress
Reply #7   Jan 19, 2011 11:03 pm
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The 4 roll Renu you referenced may not be too bad of a deal for quality in your area.  I would personally choose it over most of the "S" brand mattresses due to the fact it uses latex instead of poly foam in the upper comfort layers.  The latex will last much longer.  I am 230-240 and around 6-3 and my latex core with memory foam (3") began to break down at about 2 years of use, (the memory foam that is).  Being a side sleeper, I like the comfort of memory foam but don't like the heat buildup and the fact it only lasted 2 yrs.  Again I don't think the soy based poly support core/layer would present you with problems later on.  Most side sleepers tend to prefer deeper comfort layers, that is a softer top to accomodate the shoulders and hips sinking in but if you have demo'ed the mattress and the firmness wasn't a problem, I would include it in my list of possibilities.  I also think Sams may offer some value for you in their latex lines so if you can check those I out, I would certainly do it.  Lastly if your purchase turns out to be too firm, you always have the option to add-on a softer topper layer at a later date.  Keep up posted on what you decide and how it turns out for you so we have something for the next inquiry from Alaska.

Good Luck

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